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There's something called "international laws"

I know you zionists believe you're above international laws and above other people but I refuse to believe nature won't run its course eventually and that you all won't get your just retribution for your barbarism and inhumanity. It must happen one day. You can all flex your bought and western-funded muscles at children, women and unarmed civilians all you want but on god justice will eventually be served.

im not a zionist. not even a jew.

zionists are the jewish extremists. they are like the hamas of the israelis.

but they are busy taking over the westbank. they left gaza long ago.

hamas got one bilion dollar since 2012 from quatar alone. the west also send aid to palestine.

germany have done no barbarism or inhumanity to palestine. they send over 70 milion in aid per year. take in your refugees. and you thank them with taking their citizen hostage and parade them through gaza.

all this praying and now look what it brought you.

Sure ash sura verse 30. Whatever calamity befalls you is because of what your own hands have committed.

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Hell won't be hot enough for the likes of you.

if you start a war you need to focus on fighting. go and attack the enemy. free your palestine.

Hiding behind civilians, let the enemy rain bombs on you while you just sit there being a crybaby wont get you anything.

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And they calme that they’re the good guys in of this 😂

Free Palestine 🇵🇸 just like how everybody thought that my country will never be able to chase away France we proved everyone wrong with the few weapons that we had at that time Palestine will get it freedom 🇵🇸

Compairing Israel or the Mediterranean with colonists seems kind of stupid to me.

everyone here is a colonist.

The french conquered and colonised algeria from the arabs.

The arabs conquered and colonised it from the romans.

The romans conquered and colonised it from the numidians and carthage.
The carthageans had been a colony from tyris.

Babylonians. Persians, Chinese and Aztecs had been conquering, colonising and enslaving people while the french was still runing around in bear skin costumes. Everything is circles.

dont know what country you are from but unlike Israelis, most french had never been to your country and those who went there, could allways go back.

The jews migrated in the 19th Century from eastern european countries because russians, ukrainians and polish started progroms.

They fleed from europe during 2nd world war because the nazis hunted them.

After 2nd world war the arabian countries from marokko in the west to iran in the east started progroms and told them to go to Israel. Now that they are in israel the arabs say they should leave but of course not back to their country.

Nobody in this forum knows what they are talking about.^^

Israel is 3000 years old and 70 years young. It has way more historical claim to that land than a palestine that never existed for a single day.

2000 years ago the romans conquered and colonised Israel. they expelled the jews and erased the name. giving it the latin name palestine.

1300 years ago the arabs conquered and colonised the land and converted the population to islam.

There was a roman or ottoman province called palestine but on that territory we now have 3 free arab countries whitout any jews.

There was also the british mandat of palestine for like 20 years but on that territory we also have an free arab country. so palestinians have plenty of free countries to live in.

it has nothing to do with colonialism. both groups are as much natives or colonisers as the other. its just one group jealous and hating on the other for being more successfull and having a different religion.

We have 3 palestine countries, 22 arab countries, 52 muslim countries. and 1 jewish country the size of new jersey. and for whatever reason you all want erase the one country where the jews are save even if it would only be 200 square meter.

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manufacturing consent for genocide

dude, what in the colonialism defending is this bullshit? Israel is indiscriminately killing everyone in Palestine be it women, lgbtq or children so where do we go from here exactly? allow them to genocide the enitre palestinian people to prevent an imaginary future scenario? do you even hear yourself?

why not let Palestinians worry about their own fucking problems after they get their freedom and right to self determination?

dude. Do you know what an artillery brigade can do?

why let they enter convois from aegypt?

there are tons of vids where they stop bombings of identified hamas fighters cuz there is a child 50m away.

You need to calm down. Heavy civilian loses are inevitable when fighting in a densly populated area. Israel is still warming up. They havend even started it seems.

If Israel wanted, Palestinians would all be dead long ago.

They still use precision weapons not weapons of mass destruction.

Gaza is doing really well considering the circumstances they pissed on a hornet nest without having an escape route. If you wanna cry. Cry about westbank. Thats the ones who are doomed.

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A humanitarian catastrophe in Gaza while The World watches

hunreds of millions of aid was given to gaza they spent it on rockets, the arab world gives 0 fucks about them yet no-one bats a eye, Hamas fires hunrdeds of rockets a day yet no-one cares.. quite interesting.

Western Arabs are protesting which is not surprising.

i wrote a letter to my gouvernment that they stop aid to palestine or im vote the right wing party next time. right wing party will probably stop all aid to foreign countries tho.

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its easy telling the palestinians to kill 9 milion people or die trying when you sit at home listen to kpop and watch how they get bombed on youtube.

We have the movement in Berlin too. Thats why gay people leave the city since its become too homophob. Berlin dont occupy palestine. They send 70 mil. Euro in aid per year and take in refugees. But people throw stones and molotov cocktails, attacking police officers and burn cars. they celebrate their rioting. There will allways be people who prefer hate and fall for extremists. but such movement is not for me. if there is a movement hunting a minority all over the world i would support the minority.

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Extremist fighting extremists with one having the upper hand and nobody is doing anything, just watching how innocent people die. What a sh*t Show.

hamas declared war now we get 100-1000 dead per day untill they come to terms.

real sh*t show starts when food run out.

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The Palestinian side (and Lebanese, actually everyone else in the region) has never ever even remotely used such a language. Meanwhile high ranking officers in the Israeli administration have openly and consistently used dehumanising and racist language in regards to ALL Palestinians, from calling them human animals, to saying all of them are legitimate targets because there are no innocent civilians, to calling them children of darkness. But what's even more depressing is how all of these western governments and media who spent ages preaching about and promoting human rights and freedoms, are now watching this rhetoric and nodding along without so much a reproach let alone condemnation. Openly racist rhetoric, and they applaud it.

Free palestine

from the river to the sea.

Free from what? the jews. Your guys are even worse.

And dont tell me its about palestines independence. have you forgoten the war of 1948? even without any jews, palestine would never be an independent country. Jordan would have taken the westbank and made jerusalem their capital. the rest would be shared with aegypt, syria and maybe lebanon.

The moderate palestinians live in peace in the land they allways have lived. together with the jews. They are israeli citizens with full rights. 20% of israeli population are arabs. they join the israeli army to defend their country against hamas. No need to act like its a fight between good and evil its not a fight between ethnicities or religions, its just a mess.

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This is a struggle between the children of light and the children of darkness, between humanity and the law of the jungle.”

Jesus… if he really said that this, it indeed looks like genocidal intent. How was that never highlighted in media. That’s insane!!! With the Lemkin Organization calling it out, that’s it.

Attacking Israel while the have the most right wing party in power is an interesting move.

Netanjahu have some questionable members in his cabinet. they want as much palestines dead as possible and hamas want as much martyrer as possible. what a win win situation for both extremists.

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Palestinians just want their land

They started a war and lost it. Aegypt took gaza. Transjordan took the westbank and renamed itself into Jordan. They started another war and lost that land too.

The moderate palestinians have citizenship and full rights for 70 years. They live in their land with the jews in peace. Over 20% of Israel population is muslim. They fight together with jews, bedouins and druze to defend their country against those extremists who cant stop the hate.

War dont give Palestinians land if they loose every time, it kills them.

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There are rules in war. If your attack causes more deaths on civilians than it’s considered a war crime.

Cutting of food, water and electricity is a war crime.

Making it harder for people to evacuate is a war crime.

Using specific type of weaponry like white phosphorus is a war crime.

Defense or not.

Hamas using their own people as human shields is a war crime too.

Training kids to join war is a war crime as well.

This whole conflict at this point is just purely illegal and exceeded any definition set by the Geneva Convention. No matter what direction you look at it, nobody involved plays fair.

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there are rules of war but its not about how much civilians die compared to soldiers.

If hamas misfire a rocked and it crash into a hospital its an accident, not a war crime.

If idf hit a hospital while the aim at a hamas fighter in front of it, its collaterals, not a war crime.

White phosphor can be used for fogging or lighting.

Its presumed war crimes. For a war crime you need to proof that israel planed and targed the civilians in the hospital not the single hamas figher in civilan clothes in front of it. good luck with that.

Its not like the Jews behave like palestinians and openly celebrate the killing of civilians.

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Israel cut food and water from all Gaza, not just Hamas. You don't need to be a genius to know that this will affect civilians way more.

Most of the deaths are civilians, this is inacceptable and constitutes a war crime.

Israel is bombing homes and residential areas, whole buildings are falling, more than 47 families have been exterminated. I really don't know how you think this is okay. You can't bomb a hospital and say they were targeting Hamas. Are people really this desensitised about the suffering of Palestinians?!

I'm telling you 1000 children have been killed and what you have to say is too bad they were born in this open air prison. Even prisoners and animals are treated better than this.

They're targeting civilians, journalists, medics and bombed the rafah crossing several times. Palestinians are trapped with no food, water and being bombed constantly. This is illegal, how can people support this ?!

Hope Hamas took preparations to protect their people when they started the war. But how a blockade affect civilians is not much concern for their enemy.

It does not necessarily constitute a war crime. if the attack kills one hamas fighter its a legit military action.

Residential areas that are defended become a fortress by military terms. they told the civilians to evacuate to the south of gaza. Untill Hamas surrender israel can do the same to gaza as russia did to bachmut.

War is illegal. call the police.

Life is hard. get yourself a helmet.

People only cared about Ukraine, Taiwan, Elon Musk and BTS. No one cared about palestine anymore. Hamas needed some attention. Now people support hamas and the free palestine movement. Yes people want this. they sacrifice children, civilians and peace for their own believes.

Ash shura verse 30. Whatever callamity befalls you is a consequence of your own deeds.

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When Hamas attacked civilians, people were all saying they shouldn't and were condemning their actions saying they should target military people only (obviously). But now it's okay to target civilians? Why the double standard ?

If you think what israel is doing is the right thing, then your way of thinking is exactly just like Hamas.

Hamas attacked civilians which I absolutely condemn but they're justifying their actions by saying israel were killing civilians all year long for several years.

When you cut out food, water and electricity and bomb the Rafah crossing and threatening Egypt not to bring aid (water, food, medical supplies) to the Palestinians then that's a crime against humanity. 2.2 million civilians depend on this. More than 1,000 children have been killed by the Israeli military. Those can't be just collateral damage. Israel is targeting civilians.

What is Israel supposed to do ? Stop the bombing ?!

The bombing kills mainly civilians and barely any Hamas people. Innocent civilians, half of them are women and children are dying unjustly.

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I dont think its correct to target civilians. but im not convinced the israelis are targeting civilians.

if they wanted to kill civilians or fight like hamas, they could level the whole city within hours. We would have 2 milion dead and the conflict would have ended by now.

They cut of food, water and medical supplies from hamas. Its really unfortunate for the civilians to be in the same place as hamas.

War stops if one side surrenders. Hamas have no chance to win this war. All they achieve is further bloodshed. Maybe they should surrender?

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Nah you're right, bombing hospitals is the right thing to do

I wasnt talking about the hospitals specifically. arent they just part of gaza? So why are people complaining if thats what israel is supposed to do?

Didnt hamas started the war against israel? They also intend to defend gaza. to me that sounds like gaza is a fortress not a city.

Eiter you level it with an artillery barrage or you starve out the defender with a siege. What else is israel supposed to do?

hamas could surrender to save civilian lives but i guess if they would care they wouldnt have started the war in the first place.

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We cant even make eye contact with them or they get their hopes up and get mad if our reaction doesnt match their expectation its sickening

Being concerned for young female idols interacting with older men for their job is very valid, older men of akp shouldnt be mad at female fans who empathize with the girls since we know how it is but mad at the creeps responsible for the bad rep

for each weird 40yo newjeans have to deal with 2 weird 30yo, 5 weird 20yo and 2 weird 10yo.

what does the 40yo matter? the problem is the sexualisation of minors and the fanservice.

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I really didn't expect this I thought the members wanted to pursue individual activities so this means there was a fallout with Brave Girls and Brave bros agency

they always said they wanted to stay together and they didn't disband.

it was obvious that there was a fallout. All Brave Bro did was milking and the last month let them rot in dungeon. The member had been very vocal about not geting their concert, comeback etc. but they probably wont ever say a bad word about brave bros.

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I hated it. That weasel that always complained that he's doing it for points.

Argh, I hate it. As you said I get the plot and the meaning.

But the way it was done...

watched the 2nd part and now im very disappointed. episodes 8-10 was a total skip for me.

its basicly the first drama i watched that i didnt like. dont know how you can mess up such a great start that hard.

Nothing made sence.

very good drama. and for debute jisoo did well plus she is pretty.^^

are you sure this is a proper hanbok?