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    the intention matters. not the numbers.

    germany killed 40.000 british civilians with air bombardments.

    brittain killed 2 milion german civilians with air bombardments.

    by this logic the nazis had been right and the allies had been wrong.

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    Nakba is the expeling or flight of 700.000 arabs from israel. or 50% of the arab population. meanwhile 900.000 jews or more than 90% where expelled or flight from muslim countries.

    If the nakba was bad than your guys had been worse.


    there are muslim arabs in the israeli supreme court and arab parties in the knesset. good luck try to become a judge in a muslim country if your are a jew.

    if israel is apartheit than the muslim countries are worse.

    the nurse is not happy that 50.000 people have only 4 toilets and only every 12 hours water for 2 hours.

    this is not acceptable. israel needs to stop the supply immediatly.

    israel needs to stay out of that business and let palestinians take care of their water supply themself. Thats the way the complains will go silent after some time.

    i dont expect people to know the armarna letters or other sources.


    The british never promised the jews an independent nation. the "balfour declaration" promised to give them a home and clearly stated nothing will be done with prejustice to civil and religious rights. British initially planed to create a country, considering the population, it would be majorly lead by arabs. Unfortunatly arabs refused to create such a country since it would have to include the jews. on that term jewish leader didnt expected an independent country they only announced it after all other options had run out and the british had left the country.

    Furthermore it dont go against promises made to the arabs. At first there was never made promised to "the arabs". The correspondence between macmahon and hussein bin ali king of hejaz is the most they got. unfortunatly that can barely considered a treaty. and even if it is considered a treaty. hussein failed to fullfill his promises. in addition the correspondence was very indefinite. for example at one point it was stated that districts west of damaskus that have non arab population can be exluded from any promises towards an arab nation.


    The main reason palestinians didnt create a gouvernment in 1948 but only some volunteer armies to fight the jews had been the other arab countries and differences between various palestinian leaders.

    Only after they lost the war, they started, it had been the israeli occupation of parts of their territory that caused them difficulties. but that still didnt explain why they didnt anounce their country in the jordan controlled westbank and the egypt controlled gaza strip.


    Of course there are various different groups of palestinians. those 1.6milion who wanted to live together with the jews in one country so and live nicely as full israel citizens. those who dont want to live with the israelis fleed to various other countries in the world and try to start a new live there. those who dont want to live with the jews but also dont want to leave their country moved to the other side of the jordan river and make up the majority of the population in the east palestine arab country.

    finally those who wanted to destroy israel are left in gaza or westbank or are their children. and of course not all of them wanted to kill the jews themself. most fled and hoped they could return soon after other arab armies destroy israel.


    israel try to reduce civilian losses as much as possible but they still have to fight a war. they cant allways stop the bombs on identified targets everytime they spot someone who may be a civilian or a hamas fighter in civil clothes next to the target. bring out 2milion out of 2.2 milion is more than ukrainian civilians in mariupol could have ever hoped for. war is allways evil. and if it involve fanatic religious terror organisations its doule evil.


    if the war will keep going on the crisis may occure allready during the war. gaza has allways be depended on water, electricy, communications etc. from israel. maybe they should have build on that instead on rockets.

    Finally some good news… should have been done from the very beginning!!!


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    Even the UN said 2m are in the south. The plan from Israel to evacuate the civilians worked. seems like 200.000 choose to stay in gaza. Either they want support hamas or they are forced by hamas to stay.


    i would be more considerable to palestine position if they would offer a solution or made an efford to create their own country. but they did nothing like that for 2000 years. All they say is that they want get rid of the israelis so they can take everything the israelis build.

    Its only stupids and i dont waste my time with stupids.

    The Israelis aint innocent either. but at least they are somewhat reasonable.

    Palestine is like Don Quixote fighting windmills. How often do they wanna try to kill Israel?

    600 B.C. Babylonias crushed the kingdom of israel. they destroyed the temple of jerusalem. Thats 1300 years befor muslims build their al aqsa mosche on that same place. they deported all the jews to babylon. few hundred years later the guys are back in town.

    70 A.D. romans destroyed the temple a second time. this time they went a step further and did the first holocaust. killing 1 million jews. they even ereased the name israel and replaced it with palestine. but it didnt help. today the guys are back in town again. the more you fight them the more settlements they will build. gaza was once a jewish city. its mentioned in the bible. pro-palestinians should stop talking about this colonizer bullshit it may give the israelis bad ideas.

    History is something these people promoting Hamas likes to ignore. They will cry about Israel but not say anything about Jordan Egypt or Kuwait who all used to take Palestinians but later refused and even forcefully deported them even when they made up nearly 20% of the population. Why? Because the Palestinian liberation movement the precursor to what's known as Hamas today did all of the same shit but openly tried to overthrow Jordan's government, caused civil wars and even helped suddam attack Kuwait in 1992. All these nations seeing the "innocent" Palestinians still hanging around or cheering on those people found all Palestinians complicit to what happened and thus kicked them out. The same continues to happen in the current hamas Israel war. It hurts to say this but Israel is actually not the bad guy here. The people literally condemn themselves so Israel at this point can actually be right in killing evey last one of them. A terrible thing to consider but history and the continued actions of people doesn't not lie to you.


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    Its only the people who are not involved and need to fear no consequences who cheer for them.

    If Hamas say 8000 people died. Its probably 4000 people. 2000 of them are hamas fighter. 1000 of the 2000 civilians got killed by hamas themself. 500 because hamas used them as body armor and 500 because of individual cases. anyway thats a genozid.

    in 100 days hutti killed a million people and ereased 75% of tutsi population and they only had machetes not weapons of mass destruction.

    people have no clue about war. The numbers, use of weapons etc indicate idf have one of the most considerate rules of engagements.


    hamas post a lot of videos about attacking israel tanks and apc with anti-tank weapons. i was surprised you never see israel infantry acompany the tanks in the first line. then i recognised idf have trophy. it interdicts over 95% of the incoming attacks. makes nice explosion but the tank stay unharmed. hamas fighter only reveal their positions. so far they only gave it to usa and germany. they should give it to ukraine. it would help them big time.

    Israeli politician gets suspended.

    Iran, Hamas or Hisbollah politician get promoted for saying shit like this.

    The difference between both sides cant be more obvious.

    Did you just compare Germany to Palestine ?????? Dude I don’t if things got mixed up your head but the reason Germany had to lay low because they were the oppressors and Palestine is the one that had their land stolen from the only way to get colonisers out of your country is to fight with any means you have and Hamas is what Palestine have and saying that Ukraine is fighting yet you think Palestine isn’t says a lot about how you view the world, and you guys have only bring the numbers of damage Hamas did since October yet you guys never mention the years of operation Palestiniens have been living from the hands of the Israeli gouvernement

    no. the reason germany had to lay low is because they lost a war. There would be no israel if they would have won.

    Germany started a war to conquer land and so did the arabs. Both lost, so both ended up with their land being occupied.

    October? The shit started when the arabs attacked in 1948. but actually in the 1920s when they started the first progroms against the jews.

    So you think Palestine should bend over while the other examples I gave are disputable because the other countries have the capability to fight back. Omg, wait a stupid view.


    You you literally mentioned they got backing from other countries to be able to fight. Ukraine wouldn't have lasted this long is not due Europe and USA sending weapons and aid, Vietnam wouldn't have survived of it didn't have USSR backing, Bangladesh wouldn't exist without India lending they're forces. No one is going to help Palestine because any backing will be seen as a challenge to America, every non USA ally country outside China or Russia will be fucked from sanctions and shit. USA is arming israel, letting them commit genocide en mass and threatening any country that tries to get involved like Lebanon or Iran.


    learn to read. i didnt care about the news. its sad that people die. but the news comes from hamas. if israel dont kill the people hamas will do it themself to get attention. so i wont pay attention to those news since that will only make sure they will keep going on with their inhuman strategy. also they are lias so most is probably not true anyway.

    Name an example that goes on for 80 years and where it gets worse with every decade for the so called freedom fighter. If your fight only leads to doom your childrens future instead of give them a better future its stupid to fight.

    The arabs even lost when israel had no suport from usa and 6 arab armies with tanks and airplanes lost against a few guys with rifles. Even without Israel the other arab countries would take the land. Did Palestine got their independece when Westbank was under Jordan and gaza was under Egypt control? Vietnam or the other never had been in a prison like you said.

    Doesnt matter how you get into prison but you dont get out of a prison with rioting or attacking the guys who guard the prison.

    You have better chances leave the prison with being resentful and nice to the guard.


    Its sad that civilians die i just dont blame israel for that. i didnt care about the numbers because it comes from hamas. why should i believe liars? It doesnt matter how much israel kills because if they dont kill the civilians, hamas will kill them for the news. Care about those news just ensure hamas will continue kill civilians or use them as their body armor.

    live aint fair. so yes. like germany did after losing the 2nd world war they need to endure some punishment and proove they dont seek revenge.

    Starting and loosing wars does have consequences. The westbank is probably lost forever. But they can have an independent state in gaza.


    I support ukraine. i send hundreds of euro there. Ukraine didnt start the war. Ukraine have a fighting chance. unlike Palestinians they do fight. They do try to protect their people and not use them as their body armor.


    Israel have a democratic, multicultural, multiethnic society. The extremist jewish zionists are a minority.

    Those 1.9 milion arab muslims who dont want to kill all jews live happily with full citizen rights and without any occupation. They serve in the IDF to protect their families.

    But you allways unite whole israel against palestine since you want to erase whole israel not just the extremist jews.

    When Hamas attacks Israel half the people they kill aint even jews but arab muslims like themself. thats not a war against an occupant. thats a civil war. so stop that nonsense and compare it with second world war.

    Vietnam got military support from the sowjets and china. but must importantly they know how to win a war. they went into the jungle to fight not to the internet to cry and mourn.

    As long as Palestinians elect a terror organisation that focus on killing all israelis instead focus on better life for palestinian people, israel wont loosen their security for better treatment of palestinians. that should be understandable.


    I dont care about news reports about bombing this or that. all the reports are from hamas. They say 8000 people died. It doesnt matter how much or how few are killed by the israelis. because hamas will just add as much they want so it fits them. either they will just add the number or they will do the killing itself. Hamas shot 7000 rockets to israel. 550 of them landed in gaza.

    There is actual footage of the ambulance the IDF bombed showing the occupants in the ambulance being only emergency first responders and injured patients. But it's too graphic to post. No Hamas. When even their lie is caught on camera and people still think there is no genocide happening. :eyeroll-pepe:

    Hamas's body armor is at least occasionally made up of under three-year-olds

    The British give the transjordanian part of palestine its independence relativly soon. it could have goten more parts with jerusalem as its capital. but that was stoped by anti-hashemid arabs.

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    In the west part arab population began to attack the jews. starting wisth nebi musa revolts in 1920 culmilating in the hebron massaccre 1929. in response jews founded hagana the predecessor of the idf.

    British had to drop the plan to give the country independence and proposed the peel-kommision.

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    make two countries with the larger part for the palestinians. jews would accept. but arabs refused. Since then every new offer for them gets worse since jewish migration grew and arabs suck at war.


    People say todays conditions are unfair and not all palestinians are hamas. but not all germans had been nazis too. still they got bombed. a third of their country got ethnicly cleaned. the rest was divided in several parts. their capital was divided. they werent allowed to have an army etc.

    Palestine needs to start with whatever deal they get from the israelis and build on from there. they need to build trust and proove they aint a thread for israel. its the only way to secure better treatment and more rights with time. but if they decide for suicide by cop its up to them.

    How they gonna do that if the government is gone? Because that’s what loosing would be.

    Also America would not allow this. They aren’t coming to rescue Palestinians, but they would definitely prevent IDF from nuking bigger parts of the Middle East, including every Jewish person living in Israel. That would open WWIII

    if the government is gone its to late. but if the army is losing ground in an open war against stronger oponent they will start using nukes. first tacticals and later the bigger ones.

    USA has no saying. they can punish after they start the bomb but the cant prevent it.

    Anyway its ridiculous disscusion since it wont happen. If things get serious USA and even Germany would give Israel everything they need to defend themself, including boots on the ground.


    There are two ways this ends. Either arabs start loving their children more than they hate the jews. Or Israel kicks out the palestinians from all of Palestine. But i guess arabs wont do the first thing and israel wont do the second thing so probably this mess will just go on for another 70 years.

    hypothetically, if Israel would loose they would take their enemies with them. Not only Palestine but also Hisbollah territory and Iran become nuclear waste land.

    People only want to hate. Its not like they care about palestinians or have a horizon greater than a squaremeter.

    And we're back to overlooking countless unnecessary mass deaths because not enough have been killed to be called a genocide. Clearly the already 8000 including 4000 kids aren't enough, we more more to die for it to count to make it official. Palestinian lives are nothing but stats still.

    not palestinian lives, its human lives. Assad killed 200.000. 370.000 died in jemen. pakistan deport 1.9 milion afghans. no one cares.

    people is the one ressource on earth we have plenty. human live itself have no value. Value is gained trough performance.

    Iran and other Israel haters support for Hamas will continue as long they offer blood.

    Support for Israel will also continue since its a democratic nation with strong army and the only modern industrialised country with a diverse population and society in the region.

    No one will support palestinians since they have nothing to offer. They are left with thoughs and prayers. some may send money to make themself feel good. But no one will really risk their ass for them.

    The post-colonial population growth in these countries is only part of the issue. Some grew others declined. What truly matters is the current living conditions of the people. Colonization left a lasting impact, disrupting many countries, and some of these nations are still bound by exploitative contracts that maintain their dependence on former colonizers. France, in particular, has been known for its involvement in this.


    While it's true that these countries bear some responsibility for improving their own living conditions, it's important to recognize that many Western nations have a vested interest in perpetuating corrupt governments in these regions for their own benefit. This dynamic complicates the development and progress of these nations, as external factors play a significant role in hindering their growth.

    Kid claimed she barely survived a holocaust done by the french. algerian population data dont back that up. not post-colonial. not colonial. not pre-colonial.

    Of course the french did and do a lot of shit. But point out the french when they do the same as everyone is stupid.

    colonialism isnt good or bad. there are two sides to it. like it is with everything in live.

    Peoply, country, ressources allways get exploited. be it the colonists or local rulers. colonisation happen whenever two civilisations met and one is heavily underdeveloped in certain categories.

    brithish, french, russians had been the same as the arabs or romans prior to them. or chinese, aztecs, babylonians and persians prior to them.

    If under the former local ruler all women and half the men had basicly been slaves. which was the case for many indian, african and american nations, kingdoms, tribes. than the french, british whatever colonial rule brough a big improvement for many. Even if they still got treated as second class citizen it was the first time many people had at least some basic rights.

    Japanese colonialism in korea was brutal and koreans got treaded badly. Compaired to the joseon dynasty it was still an improvement for the female population and 40% of the male population.


    If British colonialists stop local indian tradition like sati. is that good or is that bad? or did it depend on the point of view?


    Independend Countries are responsible for themself. Biggest company in Africa is Algerian company sonatrach. its responsible for 30% of algerian gdp. Selling gas to europe is what they depend on. some more money comes from trourism. also mostly from europe. Many countries dont have natural ressources. there the people need to work hard to earn their money.

    there is nothing but algeria themself that stops algeria from building better cars than mercedes or bmw. or better smarthphones than iphone.

    there is no soldiers forcing people from nairobi to mumbai going to mcdonalds. its the people themself who choose western products because they like them.

    Many Asian countries focused on themself instead of blaming someone else and doing well with it. If African countries dont want take europe countries as role model they can look at them.

    well you have your facts all over the place lol, first of all I’ve never said that arabes or other that came to Africa as good conquerors just that they didn’t come with the mindset of erasing us and no we aren’t arabe we’re Africans nether our culture or looks is remotely arabe and no we didn’t become 44 millions thanks to the arabe like I said there weren’t enough arabes to change our genes we became 44 after France left only recently, in 1962 there was only 11 million we were almost eliminated completely

    you have 45 milion today. 11 milion in 1960. 2.9 milion in 1870. your population was growing steadily. after 100 years of french occupation your population was 4 times larger than befor. there was no real thread of elimination.

    Only time your population may had some backslashes had been during 17th century thants to the plaque or earlier.

    We might speak Arabic but we still speak Amazigh because guess what in my country it’s an official language not berber cuz that word is offensive and no we’re not arabes cuz there weren’t enough arabes for our genetics to be modified the majority is still African like I said don’t speak about my country cuz clearly whatever you know is very surface level

    we are the good conquerers and the others are the bad conquerors... sure, believe what you want.

    Call it what you want. Its how they call them themself. here you have earned them their name they have here. I dont need to guess. I know its official language. Still doesnt change thats 15%-25% of the population and 75-85% is arab.

    your population grew from 4 million to 44 milion in 100 years. Arab migration started 1400 years ago. of course it had massive influence. They changed the language. they changed the religion and you said they changed nothing.

    Why should i learn more than surface level about your country? Your economy and wealth still depends on the french. And there live more algerians in france then french ever lived in algeria. but instead of learning from them you blame them. thats why you still dont produce or achieve anything of value.

    Don’t teach me about my history French colonisation was similar to what Israel is doing to Palestine now, arabes, ottoman, Roman… didn’t came to spread their culture and empire Algerians were leaving freely on the other hand France wanted to get read of us and replace us by their own people

    There is not much left of carthagean culture since the romans erased it.

    romans not spreading their culture... lol. stop being stupid. it was emperor hadrian who changed the name from israel to palestine.

    There is not much left of roman culture because the arabs have spread their culture and erased the romans.

    arabs have left nothing from their culture in algeria? how come your alphabet is arabic? Do you speak berber? Or do you speak arabic? Sorry to let you know that since the 7th century arab migration replaced 80% of your original population.

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    nazis said the same things. good job hitler. dude lives in the past.