I don't think many date in the early years, but they do it later when their groups have "peaked" and they are close to the end. I just can't see it would be worth the attention and problems with getting cought dating at the start of the career and I doubt many members do either. But when the groups are 5-6 years old it's a different thing.
Posts by patrik-k
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It's mostly good because it's a debut song. Had it been a 3rd-4th single it would not be the same thing, because it's not that good. But being a debut single for a iconic group make it a bit special, even if the song is not that special.
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So if I work for a company that hava 100 000 workers and 1000 of them are "trash" the company is trash?
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People mix up employees of companies with the companies. Just because one or two employees have done something wrong don't mean the whole company are bad. You also have Idols that do bad thinks or have a bad personality.
Companies are companies, they are an crucial part of the daily life and important for kpop. Without them we would not have any kpop.
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Show me a real evidence, please, because there's no way in hell the girls can release new music under the name of NewJeans!
And who's gonna release their music? No Kpop agency will help them when they fight this battle with HYBE and ADOR.
They can only release music if they're doing everything alone. Do you think they will have time to write lyrics, produce songs and MV's without any help? Or do you think they will spend a lot of money on that? They have to hire producers and directors to do that. And even if they can do that, HYBE will sabotage them!
Some people are so naivé to think they can run away and start releasing their own music right away
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If NJ will settle with HYBE they will lose the public for sure, especially after all the public fight they did. I can't see them settle. I'm sure they would retire instead of working with HYBE again.
That's my guess, too.
They can settle by a profit sharing agreement but NJ goes independet or joins a MHJ company or what ever. I mean if NJ is not intresseting in the money and only "freedom" as they more or less claim it should be deal they also can live with and their fans can accept to.
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I think it will end in some kind of settlement, both probably want to find a solution both can live with.
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Lol. Is like saying greedy is gonna end if NJs just leave. Companies will be fine.
But if this really is the beginning of the end for the Kpop system, then so be it. Fans don't realize how fuck up is the Kpop system, how enslaving it is for the idols.They can't work for free or giving their image for free.
So you call all companies "greedy"? You know behind all comapanies are people that work hard and invest their money to build an enterprise and earn a living.
Sure the Idols systems is kind of veird, both in kpop and jpop. But hey, let be hones, we enjoyed and would miss it if it disappeared and we only have the normal wester kind of music system with no groups at all, or very very few of them.
And how can you call them "enslaved" when Idols like BP, NJ, Twice, Girls' Generation and more have became rich and starts? It's does not make any sence. 99 % of the idols would not have a chance in music if it was not for the companies and their trainee programs.
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It not only about NJ, it's like Hybe is saying the protection of the legal system and system of contracts. If the system with contracts between companies and the artists suddenly breaks down we will have wild wild west where companies can't trust their contracts. Who want to invest in creating new kpop groups if they members can whine and do media play about them being misstreated with very little substance.
Some fans don't understand what danger this is to the kpop system, it could be the bening of the end for kpop if NJ just can run away without any punishment. Maybe you will be happy for NJ but KPOP could get killed. Also, it works both way, if it's easy to break contract it can be as easy for companies to claim similar "break down trust" and dump artist they don't want anymore.
I'm a bit curioius about how the revenue sharing will look like after this. If NJ claim the contract is over I guess they can't get any share of the revenue the contract say they should have?
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Fair enough I guess. I just never understand the point of you coming in here periodically to get shmacked by the tokkis. kahei summed it up pretty well, I think the rational tokkis here are aware that this isn't some clear cut easy win for NewJeans and there will be a battle to face. And that they could potentially take a hit from all of this. But they are NJs stans and as such they are remaining optimistic about their future. I would hope you do the same if your faves ever face a similar situation.
I'm genuinely surprised you haven't been able to see that after all this time.
I of cource understand fans are biased and support their group, I do that too. Uut I don't like people that are 100 % biased and never can admit faults in their own Idols. This hate against Hybe is just silly when they have not done much wrong at all. And even if they are 100 % for NJ they should not contantly attacking and being rude against people that have different views.
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Well he had earned up to this one.
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But they don't have to be as popular as before. Like, it's reasonable to worry that their popularity/success may take a hit from this. That belief is completely different from pushing a narrative that the girls are completely done for.
In my opinion, it's better that their fame will take a hit if it means they're be happier. Loyal fans will stick with them and whatever they do from here has the chance to regain other fans and bring in new ones.
No they are not "done for" they are too popular for that you don't kill all fans that fast, but they can still fall down from the top. I just meant they need to be prepared that it can be much harder to achieve same success as before. But I doubted they even before this troubles anyway. They need both to update their concept to a more mature concept and at the same time solve the issues they have with the contracts. Not the best position right now. Not saying it will be impossible to stay in the top, but it will be tough if it drags out all of 2025 before they can make new music.
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