I knew there might eventually be a comment that made me regret making this thread and here it is
well it was an open goal, not my fault.
Posts by patrik-k
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Min Hee Jin’s KakaoTalk chats estimate massive penalty fee for NewJeans’ contract termination with ADORA speculative estimate of NewJeans' contract termination fee has surfaced via Min Hee Jin's past KakaoTalk conversations with ADOR…www.allkpop.com"Legal experts view the case as a challenging one for NewJeans. Lawyer Cho Gwang Hee of One Law Partners told Chosun.com: “It is unclear exactly how ADOR violated the contract based on NewJeans’ demands. Unless the court finds sufficient grounds to suspend the validity of the exclusive contract, the agreement will remain in effect.”
Lawyer Cho further elaborated, “Most of the issues raised by NewJeans in their notice pertain to HYBE. While HYBE and ADOR may appear closely connected, they are legally separate entities. Misconduct by HYBE cannot be grounds to terminate a contract with ADOR.”
He also pointed out, “Calculating compensation based on the premise of NewJeans leaving the company could give the impression that NewJeans and Min Hee Jin’s team are aligned. Such remarks might evoke suspicions of tampering (illegal pre-contact) between NewJeans and Min Hee Jin, which would require further clarification.”
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Casual, but I guess if people are a members in this forum it's hard to say they are only "casual fans of kpop" because joining a forum is a bit to step over the line of "casual". So I guess maybe a bit more than casual, but not hardcore.
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I don't know about Thailand but as someone from Philippines, I wouldn't say kpop loss a lot of popularity in my country since a lot of kpop acts are doing stadium or doing the Philippine Arena but we're also starting to have our own groups such as Bini, SB19, etc.
It's something I have predicited and said a couple of years ago, that contries like Philippines, Thailand and you could add China to that, would improve and develop their own entertainment and Idol industry so they get closer to the kpop/kdrama standard and that would diminished the popularity of kpop in these contries. At the end of they day it's not strange if they have groups from their own contries as idols instead of korean idols.
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I think 2025 will be a bit of decline for a lot of the current popular groups or the peak and at the second half 2025 maybe something new will come. If SME debut their new GG they are in poleposition to take the lead. But in general I think it will be pretty much "more of the same" and uneventful, if we don't include the NJ mess in all this. So, probably very similiar to 2024 but a bit stagnated.
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Just for you, I'll be making at least three more NewJeans threads before the weekend is over.
Make sure you use minimal cognitive functions, your specialty, and keep clicking on and posting in threads to cry about a problem solved simply by not clicking on and posting in said threads.
You think I give a shit what you are tired of? That's a personal problem, not my problem. I know problem solving is something difficult for people with limited cognitive functions, but I have faith you can figure out how to get those gears turning in that hollow dome of yours, Patrik with a k.
Read my answer above, there are actually some real reason behind why it can be tiredsome for non-NJ fans do constantly have the forum spamed with NJ relatead threads and posts. And this Hybe/MHJ/NJ shit taking a lot of space don't make it any better. Not unique problem with NJ fans maybe, it have been similar problems when Twice and BP was at their peak of popularity. Don't just see the need to constantly make new threads about pretty much the same subject.
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All threads/post that are constantly made about something connected to NJ are makeing it harder for other threads/post to be seen in the flow. Why not just have a NJ "Achievement" thread or similiar and post all "achievement" in that thread.
We really don't need new post everyday that just have the purpose to say how good the group are or how much I like a group.
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everything good that happened to NJ was directly a result of MHJ. You can't say HYBE/ADOR because up until this year ADOR was 100% MHJ. MHJ was the reason they got paid two weeks into their debut, the reason they are successful, the reason they made their millions and get to live in luxury apartments, I can go on and on but you get memo. As for HYBE what have they done for NJ besides leaking their medical documents, exposing them to the wrath of toxic armys with false accusations, sabotaging their brand deals and hijacking it for LSRFM, funneling money from ADOR to inflate other subsidiaries' revenue, so on and so forth
You know MHJ worked for Hybe/Ador and was recruited by them so it's in that case also thank to Hybe the have providing the right reocources to NJ that they become successful. MHJ was part of that "resources". I MHJ was a big part of the success that means that Hybe did the right thing too employ her so the in that case did a good think? But she got to ambitious and revolted and are not paying the prize for it, and she is draging NJ down with her in the fall.
It's just make no sence to claim the girl have been misstreated when they have gone to nobody teenagers to famous Idols with a lot of money in less then 2 years between the debut and to the date this conflict started.
And what company will invest a huge amount of money to make a group successful if it would be so easy to whine after two years of success and break off a contract? It would not be good for kpop that for sure. They should fullfill the contract, I guess it's the standard 7 years and after thay they can do what they want.
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Even if it is MHJ, it is still HYBE's fault, since the buck stops with HYBE as the parent/managing org.
HYBE is responsible for mismanaging the situation and putting a fantastically successful GG Brand at risk, due to corporate infighting.
All corporations have ambitious people and internal competition between subsidiaries etc., Good corporate governance addresses that and still keeps their products successful and profitable.
HYBE has failed at that.
Even if HYBE could have manage this better it a bit far fetched to blaim them for the rebellion of MHJ. It would never happen if MHJ never was disloyal.
NJ would probably have a bigger chance if they did not support MHJ, their loyality and support to MHJ just make the whole thing look even more suspicious as something planned by MHJ all along, probably trying to use NJ as a barging chip with HYBE but that failed. If NJ really wanted to break the contract and leave it probably would have been better to blame both HYBE, ADOR and MHJ for the mess.
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Tokkis/bunnies are saints compared to most fandoms here if you really think about it. The only reason some people view a subset of us as toxic is because we defended MHJ from the start, which didn't align with the populous agenda on AKP. But lo and behold, we’ve been vindicated as HYBE's misdeeds were slowly revealed, and proved MHJ was right the WHOLE time
The problem is the most NJ fans are young and naive with a mindset that "Our idols are virgin angels that don't do anything wrong. All companies are evil". It's nothing uniquely for NJ fans, all fandoms have this kind of fans. Companies are not some evil creatures even if you have some companies that do wrong and they do misstakes sometimes.
It' just ridiculous to claim HYBE/Ador have misstreated the group. The members where nobodies less than 3 years ago, now, thanks to HYBE/Ador they are big starts, famous, probably earned have earned a shit load of money and probably don't need to work ever again if they wanted to. Does thay sound like misstreatment? If they complain they sound like spoiled brats that should not get much of sympanty at all. You have a lot of other kpop groups that never have gotten the previliege NJ have.
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Yeah, they sound like they are your age. Crazy, uh?
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How old are these NJ fans? they sounds like they are like 14 all of them
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The standard "both are at fault" line coming from people that have not followed the topic properly is starting to become a bit annoying, and it just proves how the missinformation spreaded in the international community has worked, sadly.
I personally don't care, but a recommendation, if you don't know about something, it's fine if you don't have an opinion.
Anyone comparing Hybe's 99% of fault with the 1% MHJ might have don't make sense to me at this point.
Just accept people have different opinion on the issue, don't running around saying people "how not followed the topic" or "people are missinformted". Everyone have their right to have an opinion and just because someone have spent more time reading about a subject don't mean that one have more right than any other.
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It probably just mirrors their preferences. For a hetro man it's not that fun to watch a group of boys/men in makeup dancing around in a MV. I mean, I prefer looking at BP compared to BTS. It's not that hard. And if you would create your own group as a CEO, well... . And also, I would guess it's a bit easier to control a group of girls compared to a group a young men.
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You're kidding, right? Only 3 girl groups?
Let's not forget how MAMAMOO, GFriend, Oh My Girl, BOL4 and even Momoland ruled the charts for years, as well, and beat all the other 3 you mentioned, multiple times!
I don't wanna fight again, but IN KOREA, it was a BIG6, not BIG3!
I mean, 2018 and 2019 was MAMAMOO's year, no one even came close to them! Let's not ignore others just because they're not part of the BIG4!
BOL4 and Momoland must be a joke? I mean, yes Momoland had some good songs but it's more like one hit wonder typ of group.
Oh My Girl was late with their big break through year of 2020 and and a pretty short bost and time at the top.
So I would say it's about five groups that have managed to be in the top of popularity long enough to group them as top groups in the 3rd generation.
