Posts by patrik-k

Quote from kahei

I don't understand how one could be a NewJeans stan and go on about how they're "over"? If, in the worst case scenario, they aren't "NewJeans" after this - they've still made an impact as NewJeans that won't be erased. Most people know NewJeans as the girls themselves, not Min Heejin, and especially not HYBE.

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You should not underestimated how much damage their popularity can take if they are put on hold for an year and if they need to change dame. One year in kpop can be a long time when your fans maybe are kpop fans for a few years and then move on. And even if they don't like Hybe/Ador today, it was their support and money that made them the stars they are today. It's not that easy to replace that support and make in runining smothly from start.

Quote from Yama-Chan

Idiot talk is a perfectly apt description of your first post. Obsessed is your thinking you have any business speaking on a group whose issues you clearly know nothing about; your ignorance is blatant. Weird is posting a brainless take where you're hoping for a group to fail instead of just focusing on supporting your own favorites. Yes, all that culminates with you not knowing your damn place, ARMY.

You really are a rude fucking asshole aren't you?

90 % chance Ador wins in court, 10 % for NJ. But I would not be suprised they made a deal along the way.

Quote from monalisalove

Your joke about virgin Mary is worse than my whole akp posts combined

A least you remember a good joke.

Quote from thebadguy

Cool but im curious about the politicians who were supporting newjeans during the national audit. Which party were they from? U have any idea?

You think that is a very important matter right now?........... You know SK have bigger problems than NJ right now.

Quote from monalisalove

The fact that you mentioned the 2 groups you love to hate in such a serious thread... guess your virgin Mary joke is really the standard of your character.

No it's they two biggest and most popular girl groups so that was why I picked them. I was thinking on broups like Twice and BTS also. And it was a joke connected to the myth that Politician allways comes up with a kpop scandal or similar to avoid attention.

And I have said it many times, I don't hate BP, I just disappointed in the songs last couple years. I don't hate NJ, I just dislike their songs I thing they are very overrated.

Maybe you are the problem that take every chance to attack people?

Well, I did not had this on my bingo card, that's for sure. Holly crap.

Not even a dating "scandal" in Blackpink or NJ can cover up this shit.

Quote from Chemotter

You don't really engage in any discussion in good faith.

As for the users on here, we barely say anything. The megathread slowed down significantly. Go to the Kpop megathread if you want to see people obsessed with this issue. They literally stalk your user name and mass downvote anyone that says anything remotely positive about Newjeans.

No good faith? I give my input on the issue about it's not so easy for NJ to just break the contract and run away and that Hybe acctually have not done much wrong. It's NJ fans that are constantly just pumping out pro-NJ/anti-Hybe statements without any critical thinking. And the fans are often rude against people that point out the difficulties and try to have a more balance "grown up" view of the issue.

Quote from Tr12345

It's more entertaining to see how you're not even a fan of them or any hybe groups, but you're still so deep into this. Obsessed isn't even the right word, because even those hardcore hybe stans here gave up on this feud ages ago. Like I get why that Killingsomething user is so crazy since she is a hybe stan, but you don’t. And as someone who only watch from the sidelines, you weirdly always projecting the worst for the girls. You’re not even neutral anymore for it to just be some normal unbiased opinions or justify your obsessive actions on Nj and this whole feud

It's because the rabbits are so fanatic and always attacking me that I will be fun to watch if I'm right or wrong. If I end up being right I will laugh, if I end up being wrong, well I was wrong. So at this stage is more to see who is right or wrong. And you rabbits are posting so much about the issue all days so it's hard to avoid it. Sadly this probably will drag out a loooooooooooong time before we have an end.

Quote from 0ppar

That's not the issue. The issue was HYBE repeated telling the original investors that HYBE had no plans on going public and that the company was struggling. HYBE then suggested that they offload their shares to 3 private equity firms (which, unknown at the time, were linked to several senior HYBE executives, including BSH himself). Less than a year after the shares were sold, HYBE announced they were proceeding with an IPO.

Not sure what you getting this from, no article talkes about what you are claiming and the issues is only that they did not disclose the deal between BSH and the private equatiy firm.

It's really funny how one sided the rabbits are....... it's kind of entertaining to watch.

Quote from 0ppar

indeed, it's not embezzlement, it's fraud.

It's not "fraud" either, but maybe missleading and lack of information. The whole point of IPO is to give the owners a chance to sell and "off load" their shares and the what they did. It's pretty common for shares to go down after the IPO.

And all this is pretty stupid, because the IPO price was 135,000 KRW in okt 2020, debuted at 270 000 KRW it went down to around a lowest price of 140 000 KRW two week later, so even if you bought at the IPO price you still have made a profit. If you bought it at the highest price the first to week, yes you made a lost if you sold them. But in june 2021 it was back up to 270 000 KRW again.

When you accuse people of serious crimes you at least should be a bit careful.

Quote from Yama-Chan

...What? You do understand that when you operate as a publicly traded company, which HYBE did the moment they made their IPO, you have a fiduciary responsibility to all your shareholders. It is absolutely illegal to lie to your shareholders about your intent to go public, only to realize profits between you and your institutional partners, and going public right after

In other words, stealing money from investors is even WORSE than embezzlement, so I agree with you there.

You think the FSS is launching an investigation because doing that would be legal?

You think a company can tell individual investors they aren't going public, with the full intention to go public and then profit on that deception?

Yeah, I bet you wouldn't feel that way if it was YOUR opportunity costs soaring through the roof and your potential profits getting erased by a bunch of rich crooks

This is getting a lot of attention on every finance news outlet in Korea, even from media that has always been pro big business, because IF all this is true, it would be a huge crime.

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It's still not "Embezzlement", so you should not use word and accusations that is not true.

It says nothing about any "embezzlement". Embezzlement is whey you steal from the company and this is about earing money from a IPO. And it's not illegal to earn money.....

It's stupid, but not necessary career endig even if I think it will hurt them and they would have benefited from avoided creating this mess from the start.

I think think some kind of deal with Hybe is the likely solution. It could end up in some kind of profit sharing deal, like they are allowed to create their own company but 30 % of the revenue should go to Hybe.

Well, BP is in a not-disbanded but pre-disbanded mode like many groups are after their first 7-years with less activity as a group, so nothing strange. But the average of 1 single/years after their debut year also shows they are more a hype and popularity phenomenon than a strong music group, because that is a pretty patetic average.....

Sadly it probably will be that other groups copy their concept and type of music, which I don't think is a benefit for kpop.

Other than that, it's not like they will have much other impact, if we don't drag the current mess in to it. Popular groups comes and goes with any huge impact on the industry, they mostly impact what kind of music and concept others groups do.

2nd generation 2010-2012, really a golden time for the girlgroups.

Quote from Aeicy

It sucks people have "no choice" other than using a car. Perhaps trains could exist???

Well the tax on the plastic bag prevents creating more and more plastic. We consume way too much plastic

Trains work greate where the population destiny is high, that not the case for a lot of Sweden so you the options of bus or car. But you get a similar problem with buses as with train, it's not pratical possible all the time.

Maybe they are just older and wiser than..... you know... NJ?