Posts by nm-tn

Quote from rainbowblink224

Blackpink doesn't have all of their solos set up (Jennie's is, Rose's is coming, Lisa's coming soon and Jisoo's is most likely coming in 2022). Their contract expires in 2023. By the time it comes, I think Blackpink would be able to do what they want.

BTS, they have the military thing but if they win Grammy's then they can be exempt (is that right?) but the competition is going to be hard and if some members go into the military, I have no idea what it's going to do to the group itself. But they debuted in 2013, did that mean that they resigned their contracts because 2020 would be the end, or did they have the 10-year contract? But they don't have anything set up either I'm hearing? Isn't Agust D Suga? I think he's a soloist.

Twice has absolutely nothing set up for them. No solos, no subunits, but they aren't really in danger. There hasn't been a huge scandal and females aren't required to go into the military for a while (they can if they want to though). There are not many things they can set up because their contracts expire next year. They could probably throw some solos in, maybe a subunit, and throw someone into modeling and/or acting. There's not much they can do. If they do decide to leave then they have almost nothing set up so they almost have to...

BTS renewed their contract so they have till 2026 on their current one. As someone mentioned before, I don’t think they will ever disband. They’re stockholders in BHE so they will most probably continue doing what is good for the company. Maybe solo projects for the members while squeezing in an OT7 album maybe once a year. They like the company and love each other, so why not continue working with people you love? So solo projects (be it music, acting, hosting, producing, etc) but still retain the BTS agenda going.

I don’t know about BP and Twice. Twice will depend on how many members will want to renew (or not want to). Each member don’t really have a stong enough individual fandom that will ensure their survival post Twice (or maybe just 2 or 3 members). They should work on that during the 2 remaining years they have left from this contract.

BP, on the other hand - each member is strong enough (in my opinion) to stand on their own. Renewing or disbanding would depend on their collective willingness to continue or go their own individual paths.

Quote from lonelymoon

There are important differences : their mixtapes are not released on korean platforms, they do not promote the songs in music shows nor perform them at concert. These songs are never performed live which makes a difference for armys imo.

That said, I agree that they have less pressure and more freedom with releasing a mixtape.

I think the members will probably release albums in the future when there will be less focus on group activity.

This. I want to see some of their mixtape songs performed live.

Quote from Ves

Though it is somewhat well-known inside the fandom, this one always deserves more love from everyone, ARMY and others alike:

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Still one of my favorites.

There’s something about them just standing on the stage, singing the song, that pulls me in everytime.

He looks sooooo good.

Quote from dryheat

In the guild we are bullets tho LOL

Bullets? Hmmmm...maybe. Directed the other way, piercing the shields of racism, xenophobia, haters, etc. Kinda cool, actually.

Quote from keaji

Oh, that's a good idea. I have a lot of questions, that are more general and could be asked

What makes someone an ARMY in your opinion?

Are you interested in kpop in general with preferance of BTS or just BTS and don't care about anything else in kpop?

What was the decisive moment, that made you an ARMY?

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A true ARMY, in my opinion, is not someone who just watches their MVs, listen to their songs and follow the hype. We have a lot of casuals, but the true ones are the ones who take the time to sit down and listen to their songs and the lyrics and connect to the mesaages behind them.

Not interested in kpop in general although I do know about the other groups and have heard their songs (specially the popular ones).

No decisive moment for me, but I’ve always loved how they were (and still are) such a fighter as a group. They were pretty much going against the whole kpop industry when they started - poor company, not your usual “idol” looks, pretty much written out from the start. But they gritted their teeth and forced their way through and somehow came out in front. I think, that mindset is also what the ARMY fandom as a whole have adopted, specially here in the US. The “going to major stores and asking them to stock BTS albums”, calling radio stations and begging them to play BTs music, voting for the boys endlessly on the polls - there were all mind-numbing and very very tiring and went on for years. But same as the boys, we gritted our teeth and took all the rejections and just kept going ang going (I guess they didn’t have a choice here but to eventually listen). And here we are right now. Still a long way to go in terms of acceptance, but BTS is getting there (with ARMY pushing from behind😀)

Quote from Haolat

What do you think of the Army fandom?

Will you have any negative feelings if one of the BTS dates another artist that you don't like?

What did you think of BTS before you became a fan?

Do you ever see yourself not being part of the ARMY fandom in the future?

Was BTS your first contact with Kpop?

I LOVE being an ARMY. It is the most fun, organized and focused fandom (in my opinion) in the world right now.

No negative feelings if one of the boys date. I am dating now, so why should I deprive them of the same joy? And if one goes out with an artist that I don’t like, that’s fine. He’s the one dating not me, so it’s his preference.

Never knew them before I became their fan. Saw a fancam years ago and became a fan right away.

No. Will remain an ARMY until they disband.

Yes. BTS was my first contact with kpop.

Quote from SugaKitty

Actually I think they should win an award and be done with it once and for all.

This.

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Quote from nityasingh

Oh! So company matters ?

Of course! Ask groups that come from shitty companies or those groups that come from companies that do not have the money to promote them properly.

Quote from nityasingh

Company stans thread ayyyyy

Lol. I am definitely not a company stan. Just giving my 2 cents worth of recent news.

Now if you will say a group stan, then I definitely am a BTS stan. :) Any news about the group (and the company where they own stocks in) doing good is great news (after all, I contributed a lot of money to that company with all the merch/albums/concert tickets I buy ).

I’ve always wondered why he became a judge last July for iLand. I mean, by that time, he already had his boygroup pretty much formed. Was Belift aware that he was debuting one? This is not a shade against Ciipher but on Rain himself. Being a judge on a survival show that would “form” a BG that would directly compete against his own group is kinda sketchy. Made me wonder if that was the reason why he suddenly was not a judge in the second half of the show (and no explanation given on why he was not).

As someone mentioned above, Bighit is doing really well. Market cap at 8.6T compared to the 2.8T for the other 3 (they are in different investment sites, BH is kospi and the ither 3 in kisdaq).

Media news last week about the Seoul Metropolitan Govt investigating Weverse made some antis gleeful that it would cause a negative effect on the stocks. It did not. Plus news of vlive joining Weverse made stocks go higher.

Quote from lonelymoon

I don't believe that, it was sarcasm. I just found it weird to say the main factor behind BTS' nomination was Big Hit hard campaign when imo the fact dynamite was very succesful in the US is obviously the main reason and a nomination would not have been possible without that.

I fully understand the fact campaigning and pushing play a role, I just did not like how the nomination was reduced to that.

I didn’t know you were being sarcastic. Lol. It went over my head. Sorry. And I definitely also believe that no amount of campaigning would have done any good had Dynamite been not as successful as it was.

And like somebody mentioned before, I hope BTS would release one or two English songs every year (their own, this time). Just tandom releases every so often (doesn’t even have to be included in their albums) that would blow up like Dynamite did and keep everybody (specially western artists) on their toes.

Quote from nevermindmejin

And I never thought I would say this but I miss the Achievement section because it’s easier to find and I’ll always go and look for new updates from you and the rest of the statistic geeks. It’s not the same anymore

Why did they do away with the achievement section, though? I miss it.

Quote from lonelymoon

So the only reason they got a nomination was because of Big hit campaigning hard? Well, it will make it easy for other Kpop groups to get a nomination in the future then, just have to release an english song and campaign hard :)

Ah, no. Lol. If you think any and all kpop group could secure a nomination after campaigning hard, scratch that from your head.

You have to be in contention first - sales, critical acclaim, popularity, charting, etc - before you can start campaigning. The campaining is because there thousands and thousands of songs released each year (globally) and of those, maybe a hundred songs meets the criteria to be nominated. And because there will be only 5-7 (not really sure of final numbers per award) nominees for each category, that’s where the campaigning comes in. All major artists do this. Their record label campaigns for them, and obviously, only a select few makes it to the final nominees each year. Some who deserves will be snubbed, there will always be nominees that comes out from nowhere and totally unexpected. But for the most part, there is a general idea on who might qualify and be nominated, and a little push from their labels would not hurt their chanches to land the nomination.

Quote from nevermindmejin

Nice analogy. Now I’m itchy

Lol

More like the West is more aware of the existence of kpop. The media and the music industry here in the US for sure know more about it. But I think there is a divide between kpop as a whole and BTS. They know BTS is kpop, but they have grown so popular that they know they can/are competing with our biggest artists here. The rest of the kpop groups are lumped together under the kpop label.

I think the best way to describe it is that all groups, even BTS, all fall under the kpop umbrella (in the eyes of the media/music industry/and most GP here), and still carry that stereotyped image that westerners have of the genre. But BTS have grown so big and have somehow got out from under that umbrella that the west HAD to acknowledge and look at them in a different way. They are legit competition now, and beating some of the most popular artists here, so they have separated themselves from the kpop pack and viewed in a different way.

I really don’t think they will win. But as an ARMY, I pray that they will because then, we can move on to other things. The Grammys has been like an itch that has been there for a long time. We try to ignore it (because of the reality that BTS might never get one) but it’s always there in the background and until BTS secures one win, I don’t think we can completely get over the need to scratch.

Quote from hueningkaiskai

pretty sure op meant that bighit managed to get yg artists on weverse and now umg too

This. I think it was just a statement about YG artists possibly moving to Weverse, and now UMG artists will do so, as well.