Posts by Salalalala

Looking at how I AM is quickly becoming my most listened to song on Spotify, it’s the best song for me.

But honorable mentions go out towards OMG, Antifragile and the likes

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Maybe the simple truth is Yujin is not popular among international fans compared to say Karina or Wonyoung. All of her accolades that you mentioned are not even known to me, and I follow IVE (not that closely though). Maybe it’s known more by Koreans and not international fans.

We’ll, I am aware of the fact that she’s not very popular among internationals, but what I find interesting is that her Korean popularity hasn’t really translated into respect from internationals in any kind of way. Internationals for example don’t stan Lim Young Woong, but they know that he’s really, really popular in Korea. So I had wondered why that didn’t happen with Yujin. Some theorize it’s because WY overshadows her and I think it’s partially that.

I think people bought into the „WY is like the Suzy of IVE“ narrative so much more that nobody even thinks about the other IVE members.

I mean, I’ve finally seen people start talking about her again, but I still find it fascinating how little they talk about her if you think about it.

She is one of the first idols ever to have a solo bank CF, her variety show is massively popular, her Kitsch fancam went viral in Korea- people on Reddit acknowledge that solo success wise, she’s only after WY in 4th Gen

- yet I see only very few more people talk about her or acknowledge her. I really wonder why that is

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It's been a month since this CB came out, now it comes to you mind to criticize the choreography, I don't think it's a bad choreography, but I'm tired some of you insisting on the choreography bad. You may not like it, but girls don't do the choreography as you said and I wouldn't be mind if you made a headline by softening the comments this choreo is looks awkward. I don't believe your comment that you love Le Sserafim. If you loved, you would ignore one dance choreography.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I haven’t been active on this forum this month so I had no idea that people have been criticising it. I don’t see a reason to soften my comments because my criticism wasn’t directed at the group.

And whether I like LSRF is not for you to decide.

Quote from icyruios

I'm confused because when you said "they" it makes it seem like OP made this thread a second time

What I did say earlier is if you search OP's threads it's literally all about IVE and Yujin, and they made like only 1 thread about another group out of 20+ other threads. And people are trying to make it seem like it is DIVES trying to shit on LSFM by equating 1 thread out of 20+ threads made by OP which I don't think seems right.

It's like when I say "I hate pasta" and some random stranger come up to me and be this "this is so suspicious that an Asian hates pasta do they hate Italians?" when it's like 3 words said out of a thousand other sentences I've said over the past month

Thanks for defending me Icy, I never expected that people would accuse me of hating LSRF

Like I was probably out there stanning Chaewon and Sakura before most of them even knew that they existed and saw what they had to offer

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something about a Dive making shady post about LSRF. They have other better choreo to praise and you choose this to talk about? hmm

It's the same person who did Antifragile.

Their worst? yes

one of the worst in kpop? you're exaggerating. it's still decent and has some nice parts.

but yes let's move to the superior Eve's choreography please.

I‘m sorry but at what point was a shading LSFR the group?

I agree that IVE doesn’t have the best dance link in kpop, but you know that my criticism wasn’t pointed at your faves, so why are you shading my faves?

I was shading the CHOREOGRAPHER. I think the CHOREO is terrible, not the way it’s executed or that the group consists of terrible dancers.

I am still very attached to Chaewon because I used to be a WIZ*ONE from 2018-2021 so I think it’s hilarious that you think I’d shade her, too.

I am actually very happy about LSRF being a successful group and really enjoy their music.

My only two issues related to LSRF are their fans because they are obsessed with hating on my favourite group and I think that their choreos besides Eve and Antifragile are lame.

No need to become so defensive and start insulting IVE

I was watching this video and I once again noticed how AWFUL the choreography is. Even having good dancers doesn’t make it better, which wows me even more. What did the choreographer fucking think?

I think it’s incredibly disappointing how they had such a catchy choreo like Antifragile just to put this out afterwards.

Sorry for the rant, I just had to get this off me chest.

I’d vote neverlands cause I haven’t really seen them do anything.

People voting for fearnots make me laugh because they were one of the driving forces of the IVE hate train along with Tokkis.

Quote from KpopJop

i thought we were talking about NewJeans' IVE's popularity, when did that come to mean "Wonyoung and Yujin"

Because it was claimed that Dives were bragging about IVE‘s CFs during LD era and I’m saying where??? I don’t even remember regular CFs from that time let alone luxury CFs.

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Gigs in a particular country, in this case its Korea, is a measure of popularity in that country. So if a group, such a NJs is getting 80% of all the new top tier CFs, then they are the most popular in that country, as the top companies want who is the most popular.

Dives did the same in Ive's Love Dive era, then boom, out of nowhere NJs appeared and crashed their party.

How did Dives brag about IVE‘s top tier CFs if IVE as a group don’t even have them, especially not during LD era? If we’re talking about individual CFs, sure Yujin and WY did have them at that point, but not the rest of the group.

And I stand by my case that the way Yujin and Wo young became ambassadors feels way more natural and authentic, since it didn’t happen after what feels like mere seconds after their debut (the individual initial ones)

Quote from SooYoung

But the tweet clearly mention that they earn the highest digital weekly points in 2023

and if i remember correctly Ditto was actually released around the 20th December 2023

Which means that the song was actually released 2 weeks before 2023 and since it's weekly digital points, are we sure that in these 2 weeks Ditto didn't have a bigger digital peak on weekly chart ?

Not trying to discuss if they really did it or not , just want to highlight the fact that the tweet doesn't really prove anything about Ditto weekly peak and if I AM actually surpass it

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Nope in its first week Ditto got 27,386,555 on Circle.

Second week 33,314,252.

And then the peak highest peak overall in the first week in 2023.

So I AM Overall outpeaked Ditto on Circle regarding streams

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I think that's the reason why i didn't like this song so much

it sound a lot like Antifragile, which isn't bad

but since they are so close musically, i can't help but compare them and feel underwhelmed by Unforgiven

Yeah I know what you mean. On the one hand it’s cool that their concept and sound is cohesive, on the other hands it can invite comparisons like these. I guess we’ll see whether it’s worth the „risk“.

Blop, I feel like the chorus could me more powerful and distinct and I think this song is sound-wise a little too close to Antifragile, yet not as strong which is why it pales in comparison for me.

But I still really like the verses

I figured that other Yujin SP enjoyers might like this video as well :)

Now having the highest and second highest song on the list

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EDIT: And it’s the fourth highest overall for a 4th Gen group

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since when do NJ fans claim NJ doesn't have big company privileges?

the original issue is coming from another token stan using this to drag.

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I hope those token stans support the group after Cupid

I’ve seen quite a lot of posts claiming that NJ has organic success and not the same company privilege as others. As I Said, their success is very impressive, but at the end of the day, no rocket science. Few things are bound to go wrong with many company stans+ a CEO with very established reputation and connections in the industry + a huge amount of funding, no?

Quote from icyruios

Have started?

They've ALWAYS BEEN FOR SO LONG

I mean I myself was an army until 2021 and I used to be obsessed with TXT too, but I don’t think it was that bad back then.

Something definitely happened during the period of time in which I stopped listening to kpop after IZ*ONE‘s disbandment and IVE‘s debut. It’s as if they have started becoming very cocky and are now behaving the exact same way they would criticize big3 stans now.

IVE‘s success is also a great example for their pettiness and company mindset. Since IVE is not from a huge company, it has to be Kakao or Produce privilege, even though the first was never uttered by anyone until IVE es successful and prior to IVE‘s debut everyone talked about whether they’d beat the produce curse with many people doubting them.

I swear some HYBE stans have started to become a menace.

Bangtan had a beautiful, inspiring underdog story, but the rest of HYBE did not.

All of the other groups did. debut to company privilege, the exact same one that put BTS to a disadvantage when they first debuted.

And NJ stans can try to twist the narrative as much as they like, but having millions of dollars for funding and debuting on a channel with 50+ million subscribers is not “organic“ and “without company privilege“