interesting
IVE‘s success contributed to Lesserafims hype imo
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yes i didnt get cyberbullying on wonyoung's popularity
We know wonyoung did bring money with her brands gigs n mc gig also sakura have loyal fanbase since she have 10 years carrer as jp idol n kpop idol now when she is redebut in hybe ngg. She get HYPED by her KPOP fans for improvement but they re compared wonyoung and her for distribution lines ADD WE KNOW she is weak vocalist since pd48...
They should stoped bring wonyoung it girl korea also she is only popular in korea no you forget she is known asia market
Wonyoung will success anyways
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I wanna be wrong about that but long term I don't see IVE competing with Aespa, Lesserafim, NMIXX. It is just a big agency, small agency thing.
Starship has grown but I don't think they are mentally capable of managing a top tier group. We've seen similar scenario happen countless times with small to mid tier agencies. Infinite, Beast, Gfriend, MonstaX all had great momentums and were/are are successful but they couldn't really reach to the top.
I would add:
to all that, what you posted
it's like agencies are short-sighted, instead of thinking about long term group growth and gaining even more from initial, surprising success
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yes i didnt get cyberbullying on wonyoung's popularity
We know wonyoung did bring money with her brands gigs n mc gig also sakura have loyal fanbase since she have 10 years carrer as jp idol n kpop idol now when she is redebut in hybe ngg. She get HYPED by her KPOP fans for improvement but they re compared wonyoung and her for distribution lines ADD WE KNOW she is weak vocalist since pd48...
They should stoped bring wonyoung it girl korea
Yeah I don’t get it. I don’t know if people aren’t familiar with Sakura but she has a bigger fanbase than WY, and is the biggest idol after J-line in Japan. But you will only see pull the WY’s card against IVE.
While LSRF wouldn’t have gotten half of the hype without the 2 Izone members.
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I wanna be wrong about that but long term I don't see IVE competing with Aespa, Lesserafim, NMIXX. It is just a big agency, small agency thing.
Starship has grown but I don't think they are mentally capable of managing a top tier group. We've seen similar scenario happen countless times with small to mid tier agencies. Infinite, Beast, Gfriend, MonstaX all had great momentums and were/are are successful but they couldn't really reach to the top.
Never underestimate source ceo resourcefulness in sabotage
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It's a logical way of thinking. But the teasers of Le Sserafim caught my attention. Maybe it caught the attention of I've and İzone fans as well.
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Never underestimate source ceo resourcefulness in sabotage
As a former Gfriend stan I don't. Good news is that Bang PD himself is the actual producer of Le Sserafim, SoMu only exists on paper at this point.
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I actually agree with OP's premise so long as we recognise that:
a) it's a two-way hype street, ie. that the hype around LSFM also contributed back to hype for IVE
and b) that IVE's contribution is a small minority of the hype around LSFM
All in all this thread was very interesting to revisit in the post August 2022 world
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