stop bringing up your problematic pasts just to defend kpop idols

  • kpop twt makes me feel smarter than i am

    like...?! why ;(

    you or your family members doing messed up stuff doesn't make what the idol did okay

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    this was super prominent during the han issue

    some stays were out here openly admitting to being serial racists just to defend him ;(

    being like 'didn't we all have a racist phase '

    who is WE? cuz i sure wasnt

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    The user said that in response to Daesung's car accident. I think there's a clear difference between someone who accidentally killed someone in a car accident versus someone who deliberately planned to murder someone in cold blood.


    Of course the person who caused the accident should be held accountable, but it's not nearly the same thing as being a murderer, which a lot of K-pop fans are painting Daesung out to be.


    But situations involving bullying are a different story entirely. When you bully someone, there's no "accidental bullying." The intent is there and it's clear as day if you bully someone.

  • The user said that in response to Daesung's car accident. I think there's a clear difference between someone who accidentally killed someone in a car accident versus someone who deliberately planned to murder someone in cold blood.


    Of course the person who caused the accident should be held accountable, but it's not nearly the same thing as being a murderer, which a lot of K-pop fans are painting Daesung out to be.


    But situations involving bullying are a different story entirely. When you bully someone, there's no "accidental bullying." The intent is there and it's clear as day if you bully someone.

    i agree that there is a difference considering that the family forgave him

    the main problem i have with this is op bringing their cousin's situation when its not the same thing at all

    they're just using it to defend him when there is no need to do so

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    this was super prominent during the han issue

    some stays were out here openly admitting to being serial racists just to defend him ;(

    being like 'didn't we all have a racist phase '

    who is WE? cuz i sure wasnt

    You should have used this as an example in your original post instead of bringing up a tweet defending Daesung, who was involved in a car accident. In Daesung's case, he had no intent of hurting or killing anyone.


    Intention matters. Han clearly intended to use derogatory term to insult darker-skinned folks, so there's no question about that. He used the Korean version of the N-word, too, so he clearly knew what it meant and intended to degrade people.


    Meanwhile, Daesung was in a CAR accident, very much like Jungkook was. The only difference is that Jungkook's accident didn't result in a death. They were both at fault in their respective collisions, but one is "cancelled" and the other isn't.

  • You should have used this as an example in your original post instead of bringing up a tweet defending Daesung, who was involved in a car accident. In Daesung's case, he had no intent of hurting or killing anyone.


    Intention matters. Han clearly intended to use derogatory term to insult darker-skinned folks, so there's no question about that. He used the Korean version of the N-word, too, so he clearly knew what it meant and intended to degrade people.


    Meanwhile, Daesung was in a CAR accident, very much like Jungkook was. The only difference is that Jungkook's accident didn't result in a death. They were both at fault in their respective collisions, but one is "cancelled" and the other isn't.


    i agree that there is a difference considering that the family forgave him

    the main problem i have with this is op bringing their cousin's situation when its not the same thing at all

    they're just using it to defend him when there is no need to do so

    ^what im trying to say

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    i agree that there is a difference considering that the family forgave him

    the main problem i have with this is op bringing their cousin's situation when its not the same thing at all

    they're just using it to defend him when there is no need to do so

    Daesung's car accident resulted in a death.

    The person's car accident resulted in a death.


    Both were at fault, but neither had the intent to kill. What's the difference?


    Maybe the Twitter user didn't word it very well, but I think the comparison is fair since they compared two car accidents. If they compared it to bullying or a racist incident, that would be a different story and I'd agree with you.


    But I get what you mean. Sometimes people bring up some faulty comparisons to justify idols' problematic behavior. I just don't think this tweet was a good example of your point. :thumbup:

  • the thing is why are you bringing it up if the situation is already cleared?!

    there is no need to mindlessly defend daesung if charges were already dropped and everything is resolved

    it just seems like they're bringing an irl for no absolute reason

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    the thing is why are you bringing it up if the situation is already cleared?!

    there is no need to mindlessly defend daesung if charges were already dropped and everything is resolved

    it just seems like their bring an irl for no absolute reason

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    I'm not sure if you saw, but they were replying to someone else's tweet about Daesung. The other person was accusing Daesung of being a murderer, basically.


    I understand, though. I was a bit confused at first because I thought they were referencing Soojin, but then, I saw the Daesung tweet they were replying to.

  • Meanwhile, Daesung was in a CAR accident, very much like Jungkook was. The only difference is that Jungkook's accident didn't result in a death. They were both at fault in their respective collisions, but one is "cancelled" and the other isn't.

    Oh dear me. Comparing a death by car accident to a fender bender don’t seem right to me. One is “cancelled” for a very good reason. Disappointed this is coming from you.

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