Shipping in Kpop is weird and gross

  • Finally a comment lol


    I don't ship anything, but I also don't think It's that serious and extreme, unless people genuinely think two people are a real couple and try to spread this agenda constantly with theories etc

  • oh yeah, lemme add to that. People who are okay with opposite sex shipping but not okay with same sex shipping need to take a good hard look at themselves.

  • Huh, I had never stopped to consider that last point before. As the OP pointed out, they know what they're doing. I think if the groups are close and have a lot of free reign, like Stray Kids for example, then I'm sure none of them are disgusted by what they are doing to each other, or if they are, they would have had a conversation about it and stopped doing it by this point. In regard to groups like that, I believe you raise an interesting and valid viewpoint I had not previously considered before, and I thank you for doing that.


    However, not all groups are as fortunate as Stray Kids and a lot of other larger groups are. There are some groups where the company has much more control over the members and may tell them to increase the amount of skinship they have to promote their popularity through shipping. They may resent the skinship since it feels forced and the shipping would only serve as a remind of what they need to do, but do not enjoy. I'd imagine this happens more often with very small, lesser-known groups (who knows, maybe with bigger groups too) if it happens at all. After all, I do not know any of this for sure, this is just speculation, but it would not surprise me given how dark the industry can be and how hard companies try to make their groups popular, sometimes with little regard to the idols themselves, to earn more money.


    To make it even worse, there could be behind the scenes bullying we do not know about, or groups where the members treat each other with neutrality at best more than anything else. In both cases, the members may not want to be shipped for logical and valid reasons outside of outright homophobia. That being said, I hope for both cases, this occurrence is not commonplace. If it does happen though, I am sure it goes undetected as they are usually from smaller groups and have less eyes on them, or they are good at hiding it, or both. I am in no way trying to call you wrong at all, I just wanted to provide you with a new perspective since you gave me one and I appreciated it, so figured I would return the favor. I hope that is alright. Have a great day/night!

  • The thing that annoys me most is how much is pushed by the industry itself and people are expected to "tee hee" over it when it's playacting but the reaction would be vastly different if it was real.


    Like, I hate that paper passing game and the pocky eating game. Some groups are fine with it and it can be funny, but some groups look uncomfortable and it irritates me.

  • I know most KPOP idols probably know what they are doing and do it for money, but I don't think this stops them from feeling uncomfortable. (It's also weird to be paid to act gay and crap with your members, but that's a whole other thread honestly.) Anyway, imagine being shipped with someone you consider to be your sister/brother and having people refer to you as a couple, writing 18+ fanfics about you doing disgusting things with each other, and creating weirdass fanart. It's become so normalized in KPOP that it's just awful. And if it turns out to be true, the kpop industry literally reject the idol and just shun them out. Fans like imagining them dating each other, but when it turns out to be true, they freak out. I just don't understand how tf they think.

    It's not only in Kpop too, it happens to literally everyone. Streamers, actors, anyone. <X

    Sad part is many fans will do so much mental gymnastics to justify this disgusting behavior while their hypocritical selves wouldn't want to be used that way, and they would also demonize you like a nazi just for opposing the whole shipping bs, the clown world 🤡🤡🤡 kicker is 90% of them are homophobic yet will fetish fantasy idols as gay but would totally turn against them if said idols were actually gay

  • I kinda agree but at the same time idols do queerbaiting A LOT so ....it's to be expected that the fans would ship them, especially the younger ones

    there should be a line though

  • Shipping real people is really gross. It is also really weird, especially when it's grown adults doing it. I have never understood it. It crosses so many boundaries...


    K pop companies encourage it too much. In BP, Jennie and Jisoo have stressed they are like sisters, but there are weird people who try and sexualise their relationship and YG pushes it.. ditto seulrene, Taekook etc. It's creepy. Especially when people get so invested in it.


    It's fan service, it's not real and why would they care anyway? People desperately want ships to be real.

  • Shipping is fun when the idols are actively engaging in it and comfortable but it quickly turns nasty when shippers have no more content to feed on. They then turn on each other, make up moments to fit a narrative, spread misinformation, hate on members and basically they make a cult. This is what I've seen and it's creepy af. It basically backfires on the members and the shippers are so ingrossed in their delusions and misinformation that they disregard the feelings and opinions of their so called faves, just so that they can fetishize a relationship. Also I find it hilarious how shippers complain about the struggles their ship would face but if they feel that another member is creeping in on their ship, they're the first to say some homophobic messed up things. As a biromantic, the fake concern is just really weird to me because I know they probably don't give a shit about the rights of the lgbtq+ community outside of their ship. But there is nothing anyone can do, they're like basically cockroaches, as long as you have a bunch of handsome and pretty people in a group acting cute and cuddly with each other, shipping will forever be a thing.

  • Huh, I had never stopped to consider that last point before. As the OP pointed out, they know what they're doing. I think if the groups are close and have a lot of free reign, like Stray Kids for example, then I'm sure none of them are disgusted by what they are doing to each other, or if they are, they would have had a conversation about it and stopped doing it by this point. In regard to groups like that, I believe you raise an interesting and valid viewpoint I had not previously considered before, and I thank you for doing that.


    However, not all groups are as fortunate as Stray Kids and a lot of other larger groups are. There are some groups where the company has much more control over the members and may tell them to increase the amount of skinship they have to promote their popularity through shipping. They may resent the skinship since it feels forced and the shipping would only serve as a remind of what they need to do, but do not enjoy. I'd imagine this happens more often with very small, lesser-known groups (who knows, maybe with bigger groups too) if it happens at all. After all, I do not know any of this for sure, this is just speculation, but it would not surprise me given how dark the industry can be and how hard companies try to make their groups popular, sometimes with little regard to the idols themselves, to earn more money.


    To make it even worse, there could be behind the scenes bullying we do not know about, or groups where the members treat each other with neutrality at best more than anything else. In both cases, the members may not want to be shipped for logical and valid reasons outside of outright homophobia. That being said, I hope for both cases, this occurrence is not commonplace. If it does happen though, I am sure it goes undetected as they are usually from smaller groups and have less eyes on them, or they are good at hiding it, or both. I am in no way trying to call you wrong at all, I just wanted to provide you with a new perspective since you gave me one and I appreciated it, so figured I would return the favor. I hope that is alright. Have a great day/night!

    good point!

  • I have totally shipped fictional characters in TV shows (Delena!) but don't get shipping real people. Like that's gotta be hella awkward for most of them. As with anything tho, if the people involved are genuinely cool with it and actively encourage it, then fine. Still be respectful though and have decent boundaries dang.


    DELENA OMFG YESS

  • But I think idols going along with it is part of the problem as well.


    Sure they do it for fan service, but that's just feeding into the problem.

    If they don't want shipping to be a thing, then they shouldn't feed into that fantasy.


    I, however, don't care about shipping and think it's mostly harmless fun

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  • it can def be weird


    like i know this tumblr blog that is completely 100% sure yuta and mark are lgbt and dating eachother which i don't even know how to process that tbh

    and i also know once upon a time there were plenty of people with a ton of evidence taylor swift was dating karlie kloss despite the fact karlie was married to a man and taylor was dating calvin harris at the time like huge delulu :pepe-clown-gear::pepe-clown-gear::pepe-clown-gear:


    i also think the pepero types of games are unncessary , am i 12 year olds???? :pepestare::pepestare::pepestare: we can just watch gay xxxxx content.


    or we can just read it....i was doing that before i was even into kpop

    just because i find it fun and i don't really see how it would harm an idol if i was fantasizing about stuff in my head or reading a fanfic on ao3 :pepe-back-away:

    u keep that stuff to yourself though u don't make it known to the idols themselves u "ship" them.

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