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nah its stray kids for boy groups in my opinion. Enhyphen are getting there on a race car though
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No for Enhypen. They are behind TXT and Stray Kids in almost all metrics.
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I wouldn't say aespa and enhypen are the leaders YET but i think they will be the ones to lead the generation and that will happen soon
People who say "aespa and enhypen aren't leaders because they still don't lead in ALL aspects" better realize that in this case, stray kids, txt, itzy and whatever else group you think is leading - is not. If enhypen and aespa can't be considered leaders due to not excelling in every aspect then txt and itzy can't be considered the leaders too since they also don't excell in everything.
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This, people are so fixated in this 4th gen leader thing when it doesn't even matter. BTS/BP are light years ahead of the rest and will likely continue to be
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Coz they are old and already at the top. There's nothing to talk about. It's boring talking about those two groups.
Use your brain.
Every topic would be "OH BTS WINS AGAIN"
Blah blah blah. BORINGGGGGGGGGGGGG
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they definitely will debut a new boy group lol
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I honestly think it's still unclear who the leaders of 4th gen are.
There are still so many groups debuting, and so many things happening that its hard to tell!
just today, kep1er's debut album broke a record set by aespa on Hanteo Chart. Before that, Ive broke the record set by ITZY for the fastest debut song to get a win. I can see a clearer path for boy groups if anything. But that's still something that time will tell. Right now I think it's either Stray Kids or TXT.
I'm getting carried away here. The point is, we can't exactly tell. We have to give these groups three or more years and a large number 4th gen groups that are "leading the new gen" or dominating charts are not even or barely making that three-year cut rn.
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Coz they are old and already at the top. There's nothing to talk about. It's boring talking about those two groups.
Use your brain.
Every topic would be "OH BTS WINS AGAIN"
Blah blah blah. BORINGGGGGGGGGGGGG
Yet are the most talked about groups for anything they do, music related or not, by fans and non fans. Blame the people!
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currently they are
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What points to that?
Album sales are lower both WW and in Japan
Spotify MLs don't say much because they're on a hell lot of playlists and had almost 3 years to gather them
You should compare their first year and Enhypen did better everywhere except Korean charts
Their growth on all platforms except Spotify is also much higher
They're the fastest k-pop boy group to reach 500M streams on Spotify
You want receipts? I have them
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What points to that?
Album sales are lower both WW and in Japan
Spotify MLs don't say much because they're on a hell lot of playlists and had almost 3 years to gather them
You should compare their first year and Enhypen did better everywhere except Korean charts
Their growth on all platforms except Spotify is also much higher
They're the fastest k-pop boy group to reach 500M streams on Spotify
You want receipts? I have them
I didn't know enhypen was doing this good. Looks like txt only has Korea above enhypen. But it's not like txt is going top 5 on all charts.
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What points to that?
Album sales are lower both WW and in Japan
Spotify MLs don't say much because they're on a hell lot of playlists and had almost 3 years to gather them
You should compare their first year and Enhypen did better everywhere except Korean charts
Their growth on all platforms except Spotify is also much higher
They're the fastest k-pop boy group to reach 500M streams on Spotify
You want receipts? I have them
What kind of logic is this? That’s like saying Enhypen is bigger than BTS because they did better than BTS in their first year. A lot of context really matters here
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No. They did a lot better in their first year and their growth now is higher, I used stats from both TXT's first year and the present. It's perfect logic. What kind of logic is comparing an almost 3 y.o. group to a 1 y.o. group? Moas did it when Enhypen was even several months. Obviously they're not gonna have the same amount of streams and sales as a group with 3 years of experience. Very convenient for yall.
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i believe BTS and BP are going to be the peak in global popularity for kpop groups for a long time and none of the newer gen groups are going to surpass them.
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Blackpink is dead and their members are turning into influencers.
Bts is dying too. Webtoon soundtrack?
Good luck
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I don't care about "public recognition". It never mattered. Weird and insecure gg stan spotted.
Im not a gg stan, i'm multi. But a group cant really be considered a top group if they arent acknowldged by gp. Popular yeah, top, "leader" no. Its just how it is. All top bgs in the past had gp recognition.
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I am tired of people saying that no one can match BTS and Blankpink’s success. Honestly, it is not fair to compare the 4th gen group esp those who debuted during the pandemic. They ( 3rd gen) are like 6–8 yrs ahead of 4th gen and it’s a different era. Totally different! They deserve respect for paving the way for international market esp. in the west. But let’s be realistic, they wont stay forever. They are grown ups, some will eventually serve in the military towards the end of 2022 or 2023. They will have their individual careers, or perhaps get married or take a different path after the military service. We dont own their freeedom. I’m sure they want some too! I think they can retain their fame but it’s going to be different. It’s more respectable than hysterical. A few 4th gen groups will eventually shine brighter than the rest and take that spotlight.Just like BTS took it without question in 2016! How and who? We dont know. Are they going to be as famous as BTS and BP? We don’t know yet but nothing is impossible. Things change so fast and no one lives in the past. What worked before may not be the same in the future. So dismissing any group now because it doesn’t conform to your personal taste is not wise. Just my two cents!
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