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Honestly, the less Chinese members the better. If there are too many, the group will flop in Korea and there WILL be boycotting going on. The anti Chinese sentiment is at an all time high in Korea as of now. Can’t blame em’ though.
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Honestly, the less Chinese members the better. If there are too many, the group will flop in Korea and there WILL be boycotting going on. The anti Chinese sentiment is at an all time high in Korea as of now. Can’t blame em’ though.
N is usually a placeholder for any number. So the final number of members could be anything.
All I know is, if the final lineup has too many Chinese members, it’s over LMFAO China already has the upper hand due to population size and of course they’re going to overwhelmingly vote for their own. Koreans AREN’T going to want a Chinese group, I’m telling y’all right now. The show is already in controversy due to their participation and being affiliated with mnet. Koreans for the most part no longer want Chinese kpop idols as they can’t separate politics from entertainment, certain Chinese individuals claiming Korean culture as Chinese, and the whole hallyu ban that has NEVER been lifted in the mainland preventing the whole group from even promoting there. If mnet is smart, the group will have about 5 Koreans, 2 Japanese, and 2 Chinese. That’s it.
I wouldn't want a majority Chinese group either. And is it Koreans that can't separate politics from entertainment, or that Chinese idols have a nasty habit of speaking out in support of CCP and many of their horrendous policies and practices that cause numerous controversy, such as the police brutality in HongKong, the Muslim concentration camps, the territory line etc?
It wouldn't be bad if they at least remained silent on many of these issues, but they don't. And as Kpop idols, they are being placed on a global scale, and not CCP representatives. So you see exactly what the conflict is? Not only that, but Cnetz and Chinese Government also like to bully and cancel groups for the slightest things that they find offensive to themselves like Tzuyu and the Taiwanese flag or like BTS with the speech about the Korean war. And BlackPink with the Pandas.
In total honesty having majority chinese members would just cause the group to flop unless they planned to operate majority inside of China.
I think MNet will try to do something like
international fans from outside of Korea will have one vote per day
but Knetz will be able to vote 2 times, or get some buff thanks to some products or activity online here or there
this way they will manage it to make sure that it will be at least 4 Korean members in group
that wouldn't be a new thing because in chinese survivals they also get cfans to vote in more places, max that I remember was that they had 4 vote possibilities per day when ifans could only vote 1 time per day.
I wouldn't want a majority Chinese group either. And is it Koreans that can't separate politics from entertainment, or that Chinese idols have a nasty habit of speaking out in support of CCP and many of their horrendous policies and practices that cause numerous controversy, such as the police brutality in HongKong, the Muslim concentration camps, the territory line etc?
It wouldn't be bad if they at least remained silent on many of these issues, but they don't. And as Kpop idols, they are being placed on a global scale, and not CCP representatives. So you see exactly what the conflict is? Not only that, but Cnetz and Chinese Government also like to bully and cancel groups for the slightest things that they find offensive to themselves like Tzuyu and the Taiwanese flag or like BTS with the speech about the Korean war. And BlackPink with the Pandas.
In total honesty having majority chinese members would just cause the group to flop unless they planned to operate majority inside of China.
There's just no way the group will be majority Chinese members... it will definitely be majority Koreans if they want to promote in SK.
While I agree about Cnetz bullying/cancelling groups for the smallest things, I think all net fans do that.. whether it's ifans, knetz, cnetz.. everyone..
I also agree that c-members should remain silent on many of these issues. Maybe there's a way to make it contractual or something.. I would imagine that many of them find relief in that actually.
I wouldn't want a majority Chinese group either. And is it Koreans that can't separate politics from entertainment, or that Chinese idols have a nasty habit of speaking out in support of CCP and many of their horrendous policies and practices that cause numerous controversy, such as the police brutality in HongKong, the Muslim concentration camps, the territory line etc?
It wouldn't be bad if they at least remained silent on many of these issues, but they don't. And as Kpop idols, they are being placed on a global scale, and not CCP representatives. So you see exactly what the conflict is? Not only that, but Cnetz and Chinese Government also like to bully and cancel groups for the slightest things that they find offensive to themselves like Tzuyu and the Taiwanese flag or like BTS with the speech about the Korean war. And BlackPink with the Pandas.
In total honesty having majority chinese members would just cause the group to flop unless they planned to operate majority inside of China.
To be fair, most of those Chinese idols are being forced by their agencies to say it. It’s a much bigger issue with China being a (soft-)dictatorship country
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Display MoreI think MNet will try to do something like
international fans from outside of Korea will have one vote per day
but Knetz will be able to vote 2 times, or get some buff thanks to some products or activity online here or there
this way they will manage it to make sure that it will be at least 4 Korean members in group
that wouldn't be a new thing because in chinese survivals they also get cfans to vote in more places, max that I remember was that they had 4 vote possibilities per day when ifans could only vote 1 time per day.
I think this is a good case. This will be on the Universe app, so anyone can vote. Similar to how it was with I-Land. But giving Koreans a few more advantages could put the Korean girls at a slightly higher position (although I’m sure they’ll also still vote for foreigners, just there will be a higher chance on the K-side now)
I thought another cool format would’ve been separate rankings. Top 9 Koreans, Top 9 Japanese, and Top 9 Chinese. That keeps going until there is a final top 9 for all 3, and then the remaining 27 have a free for all in the season finale period
I do think Mnet Lowkey is/plans on changing it from 9, cuz of the N members thing
They’re gonna want enough Koreans as it’s a Kpop group, but enough foreigners as it’s a global concept group (and having 6K 2J 1C ain’t exactly global anymore, it’s seen as pretty standard now).
My guess is they’ll be bumped up 11-12. So there could be like 5-6 Koreans, 3-4 Japanese, and 2-3 Chinese
I wouldn't want a majority Chinese group either. And is it Koreans that can't separate politics from entertainment, or that Chinese idols have a nasty habit of speaking out in support of CCP and many of their horrendous policies and practices that cause numerous controversy, such as the police brutality in HongKong, the Muslim concentration camps, the territory line etc?
It wouldn't be bad if they at least remained silent on many of these issues, but they don't. And as Kpop idols, they are being placed on a global scale, and not CCP representatives. So you see exactly what the conflict is? Not only that, but Cnetz and Chinese Government also like to bully and cancel groups for the slightest things that they find offensive to themselves like Tzuyu and the Taiwanese flag or like BTS with the speech about the Korean war. And BlackPink with the Pandas.
In total honesty having majority chinese members would just cause the group to flop unless they planned to operate majority inside of China.
It’s the Chinese that can’t separate politics from entertainment because the Japanese
on the other hand who’s government also has tensions with Korea, stays silent on political issues which is why they’re more tolerated by knetz and Korean idol fans although if it were up to them, kpop groups would be Korean.
Dealing with the Chinese entertainment industry is just a waste of time, honestly. Like you said, you can be dismissed over there in a heartbeat over past issues mainly having to do with politics. It’s not worth it which is why out of the top companies, it’s only SM obsessed with China and getting backlash from Koreans for obvious reasons. The other companies pulled out and focused on either America, Korea, or Japan.
I know damn well Mnet didn’t plan on this group mainly promoting in China because hallyu is banned there lol Koreans can’t be seen on television (they actually will blur their faces if need be) or heard speaking in Korean. The words “Korea” or “Korean” can’t even be said 😂 I heard it’s been simmering down but I don’t know about that. All I know is, once Mnet releases C team’s performance, knetz will go crazy. I believe they’ll be singing in Chinese for the show’s oficial song.
There's just no way the group will be majority Chinese members... it will definitely be majority Koreans if they want to promote in SK.
While I agree about Cnetz bullying/cancelling groups for the smallest things, I think all net fans do that.. whether it's ifans, knetz, cnetz.. everyone..
I also agree that c-members should remain silent on many of these issues. Maybe there's a way to make it contractual or something.. I would imagine that many of them find relief in that actually.
I get what you're saying but it's not really the same thing. Regardless of whatever scandal with ifans or Knetz, they don't result in permanent banning of Kpop groups from touring, receiving Cfs/brand deals, or making TV appearances. Countless Kpop groups have gotten into scandals internationally and domestically but are still able to promote one way or another in those places. With China it is a complete other issue.
The government itself will step in to prohibit you and the citizens will rally behind. For example, no matter how much noise right-wingers make in Japan the government can't prohibit Kpop groups from promoting there. No matter how much ifans complain (whether justly or unjustly about culture appropriation) majority of their governments, like with Japan, can't actually ban Kpop groups from promoting there because it would go against their constitution. That's what I meant by the cancelling thing.
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