Do you think BTS rewrote the music business rules?

I would say yes. They did.

they sure did, kpop would have been nothing today without them

yeah absolutely they revolutionized music consumption in the west in the sense that more people are open to non english songs and non traditional sounds. And they proved, a big fandom is more valuable than being an industry plant.

the rolling stone article is so well written. I recommend everyone read it.

My favorite part .

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100%, especially considering how BTS has been the main reason behind some of the most obvious (and shady) rule changes that have happened in the industry over the years lmao :-D

for kpop, yes, of course, for music in general? LOL no hahaha they are a boy group ok ?, the BG have 0 impact on the music industry, even BSB had little or 0 impact

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for kpop, yes, of course, for music in general? LOL no hahaha they are a boy group ok ?, the BG have 0 impact on the music industry, even BSB had little or no impact

You 'd be wrong. A korean boy band with zero industry push cemented their place as the true global act . If that's not unprecedented and revolutionary changing the traditional paradigms of the music business i don't know what is. You bitter akp user saying they have no impact is meaningless when they entered the history books by topping hot100 and

And becoming more and more mainstream.

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You 'd be wrong. A korean boy band with zero industry push cemented their place as the true global act . If that's not unprecedented and revolutionary changing the traditional paradigms of the music business i don't know what is. You bitter akp user saying they have no impact is meaningless when they entered the history books by topping hot100 and

And becoming more and more mainstream.

lol are you serius?, BGs are simply a product created by a series of men to take money from girls and adolescents, that is it, what impact could something like this have on the music industry? other than bulk purchases and that kind of shit?

Do you think someone in a country other than Korea will say in 15 years "oh yes, my great inspiration was BTS"?, Be objective, okay, BTS is successful, no one denies it, but they are still a pre-fabricated act, like any BG, they ain't no revolutionary act

A resounding YES!!!

Absolutely. BTS/ Big Hit has changed the game forever. They pretty much did what Death Row Records was supposed to do back in the 90s.

Few labels came close, like Def Jam, but never got put in the position that BTS is in. They pretty much have the keys to the music game.

In the music industry, a lot of folks like to play follow the leader and BTS is the leader now.

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lol are you serius?, BGs are simply a product created by a series of men to take money from girls and adolescents, that is it, what impact could something like this have on the music industry? other than bulk purchases and that kind of shit?

Do you think someone in a country other than Korea will say in 15 years "oh yes, my great inspiration was BTS"?, Be objective, okay, BTS is successful, no one denies it, but they are still a pre-fabricated act, like any BG, they ain't no revolutionary act

No, they are the real Revolution.

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No, they are the real Revolution.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA

boy group = revolution lol

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for kpop, yes, of course, for music in general? LOL no hahaha they are a boy group ok ?, the BG have 0 impact on the music industry, even BSB had little or 0 impact

any source? not a dude trust me statement again.

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Well music industry professionals and publications and experts disagree with you.

the media also loved BSB, because BG = easy money

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lol are you serius?, BGs are simply a product created by a series of men to take money from girls and adolescents, that is it, what impact could something like this have on the music industry? other than bulk purchases and that kind of shit?

Do you think someone in a country other than Korea will say in 15 years "oh yes, my great inspiration was BTS"?, Be objective, okay, BTS is successful, no one denies it, but they are still a pre-fabricated act, like any BG, they ain't no revolutionary act

Lol i see that kpop being mostly populated by robots could lead you to think that BTS is no different. But the ignorance in this post is outstanding.

BTS is one of few genuine and authentic acts there is globally kpop or not kpop. much in control of their musical direction and artistry.

As for that line about adolescents, yawn. The fact that you intentionally downplay how diverse the ARMYs demographics is very telling about what kind of user you are.

Also the dismissive tone toward female teenagers cannot be more mysoginistic.

At last, You not being able to imagine people getting inspired by BTS in 15 years is irrelevant. I say, people all around the world are inspired by their story, their music and the force of good they represent that doesn't change cuz of your skewed input. They entered the history books , time to deal with it

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they sure did, kpop would have been nothing today without them

Comments like these are what make threads like this go bad. You can praise BTS accomplishments without straight lying.

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Lol i see that kpop being mostly populated by robots could lead you to think that BTS is no different. But the ignorance in this post is outstanding.

BTS is one of few genuine and authentic acts there is globally kpop or not kpop. much in control of their musical direction and artistry.

As for that line about adolescents, yawn. The fact that you intentionally downplay how diverse the ARMYs demographics is very telling about what kind of user you are.

Also the dismissive tone toward female teenagers cannot be more mysoginistic.

At last, You not being able to imagine people getting inspired by BTS in 15 years is irrelevant. I say, people all around the world are inspired by their story, their music and the force of good they represent that doesn't change cuz of your skewed input. They entered the history books , time to deal with it

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no, all BGs in history have been irrelevant, even BSB

BTS is still the same as One Direction or Westlife, only that instead of being white they are Asian.

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lol are you serius?, BGs are simply a product created by a series of men to take money from girls and adolescents, that is it, what impact could something like this have on the music industry? other than bulk purchases and that kind of shit?

Do you think someone in a country other than Korea will say in 15 years "oh yes, my great inspiration was BTS"?, Be objective, okay, BTS is successful, no one denies it, but they are still a pre-fabricated act, like any BG, they ain't no revolutionary act

wtf is this kindergarten level of critical thinking? BTS' impact is way beyond for you to comprehend anything and your posts showed that, smh...

Another juicy thread! Will this be another of your hit thread?

I'm just here for the . I really need it!

Yes they did!

They are rewriting all the 'rules' from the music industry, both in the East AND the West. A first for a truly global juggernaut

This is why you have these 'music experts' from the Internet running around like headless chicken....

Because their narratives don't work anymore...

Because their payola and gatekeeping can not stop other artists anymore...

Because more and more people can see through the BS, can spot the media manipulation and the heavy privilege pushed by record labels.

Because BTS has shown that true relevance can not be stopped. It doesn't matter if the industry decides to help them one day, abandon them the next and help again when they want.

BTS stays growing uninterrupted and that's probably scary

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wtf is this kindergarten level of critical thinking? BTS' impact is way beyond for you to comprehend anything and your posts showed that, smh...

hahaha you say it like BTS is mozart hahaha, BTS is just another generic BG, similar to any BG out there

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Are you replying here to give armys apportunites to brag?

BTS has outrelevanced all these boy groups, when it comes to critical acclaim and being taken seriously.

1D or Westlife never addressed the UN. They never impacted peoples lives the way BTS has. And thats considering that even these acts did have an impact on whole generations of girls, but I guess people like you love to disregard anything that women choose for themselves.

BTS is the revolution, where listeners, especially women, impact the music industry and choose by themselves who to support, instead of being fed some puppets constructed by men in suits. If you think BTS is as manufactured as your faves, youre mistaken.

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no, I repeat, nobody denies the success of BTS, but to say that it is a revolutionary act? seriously kpop fans are hilarious

I mean, nowadays any pop artist can meet with authorities, is that revolutionary?

A revolutionary act is one that is talked about decades after its peak, and it is something that is remembered by people, not only by fanatical and unobjective teenagers.

kpop outside of korea will be remembered as a fad

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hahaha you say it like BTS is mozart hahaha, BTS is just another generic BG, similar to any BG out there

please leave the conversations to adult and go back to your kindergarten class.

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please leave the conversations to adult and go back to your kindergarten class.

adult conversations = defend a BG as a religious fanatic

go back to your virtual classes, girl

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lol are you serius?, BGs are simply a product created by a series of men to take money from girls and adolescents, that is it, what impact could something like this have on the music industry? other than bulk purchases and that kind of shit?

Do you think someone in a country other than Korea will say in 15 years "oh yes, my great inspiration was BTS"?, Be objective, okay, BTS is successful, no one denies it, but they are still a pre-fabricated act, like any BG, they ain't no revolutionary act.

It's always so interesting to read when someone rehashes all the tired old stereotypes in our messy year of 2021 despite nothing about BTS or their story matching said dismissive tropes.

You sound like you're trying to convince yourself; BTS is in their eighth year and still rising, are extremely involved in their music, have poetry-level lyrics, have allowed their small Korean company to gobble up American companies and become a massive player in a very short period of time, raised visibility and credibility in the racist western industry for koreans and asians in general, and in the time of streaming demonstrated how incredibly powerful connecting deeply with your fans can be on both sales and longevity.

None of your other mentioned boy groups can say any of that, and back to the point they are making So. Much. Money. for everyone involved with them because they are using methods other major acts/labels have abandoned and don't even try. They are legitimately revolutionary.

If you don't think they haven't had a huge impact and everyone in the industry isn't watching them you're not paying much attention, or are just trying to will this delusional alternate reality into being. (spoiler: This will not work.)

i think they have done a lot to challenge the status quo, which is why i wish they would use their power more than they do

it's completely unfair that they've had as many setbacks as they've had when they practically mint money in the US now simply bc of gatekeeping. No one can keep them out, they're a force, but it is sad how much they have had to change themselves (whether they or their fans admit it or not) to finally meet all their goals

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It's always so interesting to read when someone rehashes all the tired old stereotypes in our messy year of 2021 despite nothing about BTS or their story matching said dismissive tropes.

You sound like you're trying to convince yourself; BTS is in their eighth year and still rising, are extremely involved in their music, have poetry-level lyrics, have allowed their small Korean company to gobble up American companies and become a massive player in a very short period of time, raised visibility and credibility in the racist western industry for koreans and asians in general, and in the time of streaming demonstrated how incredibly powerful connecting deeply with your fans can be on both sales and longevity.

None of your other mentioned boy groups can say any of that, and back to the point they are making So. Much. Money. for everyone involved with them because they are using methods other major acts/labels have abandoned and don't even try. They are legitimately revolutionary.

If you don't think they haven't had a huge impact and everyone in the industry isn't watching them you're not paying much attention, or are just trying to will this delusional alternate reality into being. (spoiler: This will not work.)

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"have poetry-level lyrics", fans of one direction and BSB said the same

People don't even take kpop seriously, I really don't know how fans of this genre are so skewed as to believe that some Korean group will really have an impact outside of their country.

How to say, yes and no? For kpop yes, for sure, kpop owes a lot to BTS, bighit and armys tbh, and they definitely shaked the whole industry upside down in SK with them rising from nugus to the whole damn Disney of kpop, sweeping daesangs, etc. For the whole music industry? No, not really, otherwise they wouldn't need to release a song in English to get deep into US promotions and possibility of getting Grammys. Nothing is actually changing much in how music industry works anywhere besides their own homeland, not in the US where they're the most hyped, not in the UK, not in Japan, etc. But! BTS are definitely seen as a power of their own. It's like we have had already existed powers in industry but BTS+army became a new one working on their own rules with which other powers also should reckon. Smth like that.

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"have poetry-level lyrics", fans of one direction and BSB said the same

People don't even take kpop seriously, I really don't know how fans of this genre are so skewed as to believe that some Korean group will really have an impact outside of their country.

Some korean group is on the cover of times and rolling stones making the list of the 100 most influential people , speaking at the UN and being one of the most inportant voices worldwide ,but sure... Now i know you're trolling. So bye. Stay bitter about the fact your faves will never have a tenth of the relevancy.

Not bothering to quote your incoherant posts again but thanks for the opportunity to brag about my faves.

I see the impact of BTS all over. US labels and companies are trying to form kpop trained music groups because they think that is the magic ingredient as to why BTS is so huge and makes so much money. I think this is ridiculous but they are spending money and time to copy BTS. BTS has contributed to amping the pressure on the Grammys to change and be more inclusive. BTS has these western artists chasing kpop clout because they now realize having a huge fandom is more beneficial financially. So many changes in the US music industry because of BTS.

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A female Jpop boy groups stan and a TVXQ stan being pressed about BTS and insults their female fans....the joke keeps writing itself.

lol all bg and gg are irrelevant for music history, all

including my favs, and yours off course