TW// Racist white teacher calls her student n-word

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I believe that Caucasians can experience racism

Like some people call them N*zis and some sht

But yeah

Caucasians here in America

Have such a privilege compared to people of color

But America wasnt even they land in the first place

Society is fosho fcked up

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getting accused of being a nazi is not racism. nazi is not a slur. i've never seen the word nazi be used towards white people the way the n word is used towards black people. most likely, if someone is being accused of being a nazi, it's because they did some nazi shit.

agree with your second point.

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that's racial prejudice not racism. someone not judging you because you're white is not the same as what black people and poc have gone through.

tell me, what laws or systems have been put in place to oppress you in your country simply because you're white?

what areas were white people historically barred from in your country?

what neighborhoods are unsafe for you after dark because you're white?

what jobs or healthcare or schooling are you not allowed because you're white?

which police officers murder you because you're white?

which poc have made you feel unsafe because you're white?

i said slurs. not insults. there are no slurs that hold power over you because white people have never actually been treated as subhuman based off of their race.

it's not a double standard at all once you actually try and understand what racism is, why it differs from racial prejudice, and why you'll never face it as a white person.

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• It is racism
• The Korean beauty standard of having pale skin (white people aren't as dark as black people but my skin is considerably darker than what is acceptable), in most jobs you have to give your employer a picture and if you aren't pretty enough (white people aren't pretty according to their standards) you don't get a good job, most high payed job employers won't employ you if your name sounds foreign, people can be denied service here depending on your ethnicity or skin color, because family background and status is a big part of relationships here many families won't give their permission for their child to date or god forbid marry a white or foreign person
• All neighborhoods aren't safe for a white female after dark because we are seen as prostitutes, only because we are white
• Every single man who has come up to me and touched me or asked me how much I cost has harmed me, physically and mentally
• SLUR: to make damaging or insulting allegations about someone, so you mean being called a prostitute almost everyday by pervy men isn't a slur?
• I think it's in your best interest if you stop saying 'white people have never and will never', especially from your limited point of view

Go ahead and tell me how I have never been slured at, faced racism or been judged due to my color of skin

You don't know me

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baepsaechan  hopemin  theVillain

We can all agree here to follow the golden rule and treat others how we’d like to be treatd, correct?

That’s one thing we can all agree on. At least there’s common ground there.

I can agree that if a user made a comment claiming to hate any other race and another user began to encourage hate against that same race those users would be banned almost instantly.

Racism is never okay.

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• It is racism
• The Korean beauty standard of having pale skin (white people aren't as dark as black people but my skin is considerably darker than what is acceptable), in most jobs you have to give your employer a picture and if you aren't pretty enough (white people aren't pretty according to their standards) you don't get a good job, most high payed job employers won't employ you if your name sounds foreign, people can be denied service here depending on your ethnicity or skin color, because family background and status is a big part of relationships here many families won't give their permission for their child to date or god forbid marry a white or foreign person
• All neighborhoods aren't safe for a white female after dark because we are seen as prostitutes, only because we are white
• Every single man who has come up to me and touched me or asked me how much I cost has harmed me, physically and mentally
• SLUR: to make damaging or insulting allegations about someone, so you mean being called a prostitute almost everyday by pervy men isn't a slur?
• I think it's in your best interest if you stop saying 'white people have never and will never', especially from your limited point of view

Go ahead and tell me how I have never been slured at, faced racism or been judged due to my color of skin

You don't know me

It's not racism because it's not systemic.

That's unfortunate, but it sounds like that's because you're foreign and not Korean, not just because you're white. Those things don't solely affect white people, since black people would also not fit Korean beauty standards and would be treated different as foreigners.

I'm sorry you have to face that. That's a really horrifying situation.

No, prostitute, is not a racial slur. It's horrible and dehumanizing, but it's not simply based off of your race and it doesn't have the same context as the n word or another racial slur.

I do have a limited perspective as an American. I'll admit that. I stand by my original point though. White people don't face systemic racism and will never face racism in the ways that black people and poc have. It's not a double standard.

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White people don't face systemic racism and will never face racism in the ways that black people and poc have. It's not a double standard.

Maybe you should clarify you're talking about the USA specifically then. Because in other parts of the world, different rules apply. Shocking, right?

Is that mad woman fired?

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white people have never and will never be in a position where another race can enforce power over them at a systemic level.

Really? Eastern Europeans have much to tell about it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Horde

I don't think it's possible now, but half of your sentence was wrong.

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Really? Eastern Europeans have much to tell about it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Horde

Fun fact: the word 'slave' is derived from 'Slav' ie. the Slavic people.

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Fun fact: the word 'slave' is derived from 'Slav' ie. the Slavic people.

Wrong. Slav comes from slava (слава) which means glory. It's a self naming of Slavic people, not how the others called them.

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Wrong. Slav comes from slava (слава) which means glory. It's a self naming of Slavic people, not how the others called them.

slave

/sleɪv/

Middle English: shortening of Old French esclave, equivalent of medieval Latin sclava (feminine) ‘Slavonic (captive)’: the Slavonic peoples had been reduced to a servile state by conquest in the 9th century.

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The English term slave derives from the ethnonym Slav. In medieval wars many Slavs were captured and enslaved, which led to the word slav becoming synonym to "enslaved person".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavs_(ethnonym)

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Maybe you should clarify you're talking about the USA specifically then. Because in other parts of the world, different rules apply. Shocking, right?

I'm not necessarily talking about the USA specifically. The atlantic slave trade's impact on black people is incomparable to anything any other group of people have faced. This has affected black people everywhere, not just in the U.S. There is nothing else that has had such an influence on race and the way that a group of people are viewed and treated throughout the world. I honestly don't believe anything that white people in any other part of the world have faced has been anywhere near this scale.

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I honestly don't believe anything that white people in any other part of the world have faced has been anywhere near this scale.

So it's a competition? It's either you suffer the most or you don't suffer at all? No middle ground? No silver medal?

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slave

/sleɪv/

Middle English: shortening of Old French esclave, equivalent of medieval Latin sclava (feminine) ‘Slavonic (captive)’: the Slavonic peoples had been reduced to a servile state by conquest in the 9th century.

The English term slave derives from the ethnonym Slav. In medieval wars many Slavs were captured and enslaved, which led to the word slav becoming synonym to "enslaved person".

OK we had a different approach to etymology. I toled you the original meaning. And the Brits used something else.

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Is that mad woman fired?

Really? Eastern Europeans have much to tell about it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Horde

I don't think it's possible now, but half of your sentence was wrong.

Are you seriously bringing up the Mongols? This is just silly. The concept of race in the modern sense wasn't even invented until the 1800s.

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So it's a competition? It's either you suffer the most or you don't suffer at all? No middle ground? No silver medal?

That's not what I said wtf. White people don't experience racism in the same way as black people have because of the atlantic slave trade's lasting impact on how black people are treated throughout the world. Nothing white people have experienced has had that same effect. This is not a hard concept.

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That's not what I said wtf. White people don't experience racism in the same way as black people have because of the atlantic slave trade's lasting impact on how black people are treated throughout the world. Nothing white people have experienced has had that same effect. This is not a hard concept.

And I'm saying the experiences you're speaking of mostly take place in America. I'm not saying there's no racism anywhere else towards black people, that would be silly; but only in America was there such a long lasting exploitation of black slaves which still impacts how people interact with each other.

Black people in America are descendants of slaves; black people in Europe are African immigrants or descendants of African immigants. It's completely different.