Would Z-girls and Z-POP been received better by Kpop fans if these changes were made?

anyone remember few years ago a multi ethnic Asian girl group that did a song with snoop dog ? Think it was in 2014 but that's who z girls remind me of

Also I think it's kinda messed up to replace the dark skin Asian girls honestly Korea just is not for them they should had promote more in the members home countries be like a mixture of twice and fifth harmony give them some bangers promote in America.

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I agree. However, if they would have gone with lineup I made and debuted with a more stronger song despite singing in english, the impression of the group and their looks would be better received. Especially for Vietnam's part. Like knetizens and korean companies would have a second thought about vietnamese appearance. ''Oh she looks like a baby Irene'' for example. That could change koreans perceptions of vietnamese and maybe open the door for trainees. With Queen, I don't think so many were impressed. She is pretty, but average. Some say she looks like Joy, but that's just it.

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It's hard to catch attention in a nugu group, especially one that is not considered part of KPOP. Even if the visuals included a baby Irene.

For a Vietnamese to open a path, they need to debut in a Big 3 group like Nichkhun did with 2PM or appear in major survival show like Yiren did at PD48 (where she was elected visual center.) Hanbin did the second by appearing on I-Land becoming a fan favorite (was ranked as high as 4th in the votes.) Hanbin doesn't have the same level of visuals as Nichkhun but he definitely had the charisma to get that many votes.

Despite Roy and Queen debuting with Z-Boys/Girls, Hanbin has far greater exposure despite not debuting (yet) because of I-Land.

The situation to put that defining visual for Vietnam should be on I-Land. Hopefully for the girl version next season!

Can we just state the obvious that the majority of members (apart from Mahiro & Joanne) are from poorer countries that Korea looks down on. So obviously, Koreans aren't going to easily stan them.

This group was basically made for Southeast Asian people who were dying to get a representative from their countries in K-Pop, but they too were seeking validation from Koreans, so although they were super enthusiastic (on social media, not financially) about supporting the group initially, the enthusiasm died down after the group failed to make any waves in Korea (for obvious reasons.)

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It's hard to catch attention in a nugu group, especially one that is not considered part of KPOP. Even if the visuals included a baby Irene.

For a Vietnamese to open a path, they need to debut in a Big 3 group like Nichkhun did with 2PM or appear in major survival show like Yiren did at PD48 (where she was elected visual center.) Hanbin did the second by appearing on I-Land becoming a fan favorite (was ranked as high as 4th in the votes.) Hanbin doesn't have the same level of visuals as Nichkhun but he definitely had the charisma to get that many votes.

Despite Roy and Queen debuting with Z-Boys/Girls, Hanbin has far greater exposure despite not debuting (yet) because of I-Land.

The situation to put that defining visual for Vietnam should be on I-Land. Hopefully for the girl version next season!

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I think the reason Hanbin got a lot of attention isn't because Roy & Queen are less good, but because they're from a nugu company, whereas I-Land is from Big Hit. I think people aren't dying to get foreign K-Pop idols, but they want their foreign K-Pop idols from the Big 3. I think that's the only thing that made Thai idols relevant - the fact that Nickhun & Bambam are in JYP, Lisa in YG, Ten & Lucas in SM, and Minnie & Sorn are in Cube, which is seen as a Big 4/5-ish company.

If Hanbin debuted with a nugu company like Isaac Voo from Malaysia or Loudi from Indonesia, I doubt he'd be as big. Same with Lisa. If she didn't debut with YG, she'd probably be another Dita, whose group is doing well solely on the basis of fans from her own country. If Dita wasn't Indonesians, I think Secret Number would be another Laboum or Cignature.

It's not just about talent or charisma, but having that platform of a big company & publicity.

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I think the reason Hanbin got a lot of attention isn't because Roy & Queen are less good, but because they're from a nugu company, whereas I-Land is from Big Hit. I think people aren't dying to get foreign K-Pop idols, but they want their foreign K-Pop idols from the Big 3. I think that's the only thing that made Thai idols relevant - the fact that Nickhun & Bambam are in JYP, Lisa in YG, Ten & Lucas in SM, and Minnie & Sorn are in Cube, which is seen as a Big 4/5-ish company.

If Hanbin debuted with a nugu company like Isaac Voo from Malaysia or Loudi from Indonesia, I doubt he'd be as big. Same with Lisa. If she didn't debut with YG, she'd probably be another Dita, whose group is doing well solely on the basis of fans from her own country. If Dita wasn't Indonesians, I think Secret Number would be another Laboum or Cignature.

It's not just about talent or charisma, but having that platform of a big company & publicity.

whats wrong with laboum and Cignature? Also I don't think SN is doing any better than those 2 groups it's just mostly I fans

I think it's too gimmicky and wants to be everything at the same. Like, they want to jump on the k-pop bandwagon but in an all-Asian way with zero Koreans; they want to be invited and promoted in Korean music shows but don't sing in Korean. At the end of the day, who does it cater to?

Maybe they would have been received better but I believe the reason they failed or are currently not doing well is because they were just not good, I'm sorry to any fans.

As for being banned from performing... I think that just goes back to Korea's dislike of Japan mostly and many other countries

I really liked Z-girls tbh. “What you waiting for” and “Streets of gold” were very good imo.

I just never listened to z-boys. Their music wasn’t really my style. I don’t understand why they were banned from music shows though. That doesn’t make any sense at all. Did something happen?

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Why does this literally sounds like the JPop-group INTERSECTION to me?

INTERSECTION is a 4 member boygroup formed by AVEX debuted in 2018 consisting of 4 member who are all only half Japanese. The original purpose was to be an international boygroup to open up JPop to the western world, but in 2020 the member begun to publish Japanese music as like for example the opening to an anime.

Member:

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William Aoyama, 20 years old, half Japanese/ half US-American

As William was 2 years old his family moved from California to Tokyo

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Mika Hashizume, 22 years old, half Japanese / Half US-American

He was born and raised on Hawaii and moved with his family to Japan as he was 16

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Kazuma Mitchel, 20 years old, Half Japanese / Half US-American

He is from New York and since he also studies at Harvard he is travling a lot between both countries now

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Caelan Moriarty, 20 years old (since today the 12th of April), Half Japanese / Half Irish

Caelan was born in Cuba and moved around the world with his family a lot so he lived in at least 5 different countries so far

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If you look at them, you can clearly say that they are kinda popular in Japan

~ This is how a fully mixed international Asian boygroup looks like when they are sucessfull~

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Well these Boys are really good looking. Might have to check their music too as Well 🥰

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A bit off-topic, but this is the girl who is rumored for I-Land Season 2. To be honest, she's even more average than Queen.

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Well, those pictures are of her on the street with CAC, her cover dance crew. There was no profession styling or makeup so I don't think we can make proper judgement on looks yet. If she were picked by BH, they would have seen potential in skills and visuals.