I asked ChatGPT about the top four 4th-gen girl groups’ performance this year. Do you agree with its answer?

    What do you think? I don’t really follow these groups' charts performance and doing this just because I'm curious. I’m not sure if Chatgpt’s info is 100% accurate so please correct me if I’m wrong. But as I expected, Aespa are dominating this year. I guess that one is obvious. They’ve benefited the most from Lee Soo man’s absence.


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    but i agree with ChatGpt


    i don't count NJ cuz they have been inactive for quite some times now


    but it would be delusional for anybody to not consider aespa the #1 4th gen gg now


    they are the only GG of this gen that have a very balance success, they are doing well in korea and internationally, big sales and great touring


    while all the other GG are lacking in one area


    Ive is struggling to regain the attention and support of the international public


    Lsrf have been underperforming in Korea for quite some times now and their latest release doesn't show any change


    Idle have totally flop with their latest release in korea and internationally

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    Quote from applepie343434

    I'm trying to include that, but Chatgpt didn’t have much information about the size and profits of Aespa’s, Lsfm’s, and Ive’s tours to rank them other than number of shows.

    well it's hard to compare based on touring


    Lesserafim have started their tour recently


    the total of attendance for aespa latest world tour wasn't communicate either


    the only thing you have to do is compare each group based on the number of attendees where they all perform in the same place


    for example : at jamsil arena both Aespa and IVE perform there for 2 days, and Aespa ended up having a bigger attendance than IVE


    at Tokyo dome, Ive and Aespa also perform there 2 days and IVE had more attendance


    and at KSPO dome they also perform there 2 days, and Aespa had better attendance than IVE too


    but most of the time their numbers are very close there's just a gap of 600-1K person

    the only big difference was at KSPO dome where aespa had 3K more attendees than IVE


    and for their international attendance it's hard to compare cuz none of the attendees number IVE had during their european or american leg were share



    and if we compare the 3 group based on their japan leg


    IVE did 78K attendees over 6 dates in Yokohama, fukuoka and Osaka

    Aespa did 100K with 5 dates in Fukuoka, Nagoya, and Saitama

    and LSRF did 110K with 9 dates in Nagoya, Osaka, Kitakyushu, and saitama


    So it's hard to compare LSRF numbers in comparison of IVE and Aespa cuz their numbers are pretty close but they reach these numbers doing almost the double of date

    while Aespa and IVE numbers are easier to compare cuz they pretty much did the same number of concert there

    Quote from SooYoung

    well hard to consider Day6 the biggest 4th gen GG when they aren't even able to outchart aespa on melon with their latest comeback that were released at the same time :pepe-devil:

    Get back to me when aespa supposed biggest hit of 2024 Supernova outchart Day6's song from 2019. Wait sorry I mean 2017 as well.


    I would wish that asespa has that kindly of longevity and have their 2025 comeback still chart 8 years later in 2033, that is if they are even still an active promoting group then

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    Quote from icyruios

    Get back to me when aespa supposed biggest hit of 2024 Supernova outchart Day6's song from 2019. Wait sorry I mean 2017 as well.


    I would wish that asespa has that kindly of longevity and have their 2025 comeback still chart 8 years later in 2033

    we are talking about biggest 4th gen GG


    who cares if they are doing well with a 2017 song


    if they literally released 2 title track less than a month ago and are not only unable to outchart Rich man with it, that was release at the same time,


    but are also unable to outchart Dirty work that was release 3 months ago


    and also Whiplash that was release 1 year ago


    Having an old song doing great, is cool but what is the purpose if everything you release after this is unable to compete with what the other 4th gen GG are doing

    Korea cares.


    Hype Boy is still doing numbers on the chart. I AM is still charting. Longevity in the charts proves that your music resonates with the audience over a long period of time, which is better than peaking high and falling off 1 year later which is the case for Supernova (which is still charting well but lower than some other 2024 releases), and what was that other song that aespa release Amagadon?


    Also it would be embarassing for aespa to be outcharted by Day6 not just in 2024 and the entire of 2025 so far before the comeback, and STILL be outcharted by their most recent comeback DESPITE DAY6 NOT HAVING PROMOTED BOTH THEIR TITLE TRACKS AT ALL.



    Tell that to Yama-Chan Sooyoung thinks that getting carried by older songs and proving longevity is not important


    Like I said, I wish aespa has the career length that they deserves and still be able to chart 8 years from now with their 2025 songs or even 2033 songs, but knowing SM and seeing how SNSD, f(x) and RV turned out 10 years after their debut.


    I wish aespa all the best


    Y'all better stream Whiplash if you want SM to not dungeon them in 2028 like they did with their other GGs

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    Quote from Tatiana1820

    wait didn't aespa also sold +1 million copies with dirty work?


    also sserafim being almost at nj level is while nj is ABSCENT so this abscence also undermines their western numbers.

    Oh, I just checked, and you’re right, Chatgpt skipped an Aespa album. Yet, looks like the sales numbers didn’t update properly either. So overall, Ive still leading in total sales. And after checked their numbers, Ive Empathy should actually be on top for album sales too, since it’s the best-selling gg album this year. The sales data above were outdated.


    How Icy not noticing this first?! :pepe-narrow-eyes:

    Quote from applepie343434

    Oh, I just checked, and you’re right, Chatgpt skipped an Aespa album. Yet, looks like the sales numbers didn’t update properly either. So overall, Ive still leading in total sales. And after checked their numbers, Ive Empathy should actually be on top for album sales too, since it’s the best-selling gg album this year. The sales data above were outdated.


    How Icy not noticing this first?! :pepe-narrow-eyes:

    Because IVE is disbanding and flopping


    Actually I made a thread about the sales of IVE and also congratulated asespa for doing amazing in the thread (so yes I know that fans are getting willingly scammed by SM but it's a huge win for aespa so the fans can throw their money to SM like I care).


    I'm peace loving and love everyone but someone had to come for my Flop6


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    Declining flop group IVE has the top 2 best selling GG albums in 2025
    Some person thinks that IVE is on a decline, especially those who have no new music to listen to

    And they are right

    IVE is declining so much they are in their disbandment era with the top 2 best selling female albums of 2025

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    Also congratulations to aespa as well. We love celebrating the success of woman rather than pit them against each other unlike some


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    Not going to read all of that


    And are you really trying to compare NJ to day6 ?


    Yes NJ had to rely on old songs but when they came back with How sweet they show that their new releases were also able to keep up with the current 4th gen top gg

    They were literally #2 behind Supernova


    In contrary Day6 is currently showing that they are unable to compete with 4th gen gg in the chart


    Day6 released 2 title track, thinking that they would dominate the chart

    But tbh none of their title track were even able to compete with the #2 gg, Ive considering that XOXZ is still charting higher than Day6 comeback


    So they have even less chance to be consider the #1 biggest 4th gen gg when none of their latest song is currently charting higher than aespa songs


    Anyway not gonna waste more time reading and writing essay

    Just cuz it got on your nerve the fact that you spend the whole year saying that Day6 was going to prove that they are the biggest 4th gen gg with their next cb

    Just for it to be outcharted that the top 2 gg of 4th gen


    You're the only one who had this weird kink of trying to pit day6 against 4th gen gg

    Quote from icyruios

    Stop fighting CaraFIMIE  Tatiana1820 the only thing y'all should be worrying about is maintaining the agenda


    That Day6 is the biggest 2nd 3rd 4th 5th Gen BG GG Co-ed group of all generations in Korea


    The more we say it the more people will believe it coz it's actually working

    its okay, I could never be mad at Tatiana1820:flirt-pepe2:


    Unless she doesn't see the Light of Day and continues to deny that Day6 biggest bg and gg

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    IVE is 4th despite having two of the best selling GG albums, 1B digital points in Korea but LSRF is 3rd because they have some Spotify streams okay I guess :iconpepe:

    Which is why we need to stream XOXZ to save them from disbanding


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    Wait that single was a physical? Y'all be buying shit with 1 song?


    No wonder SM keeps getting away with scamming y'all

    It's exactly that because kpop fans will preorder albums no matter what. All a company has to do is provide packaging and people will preorder it. I think preorders is an easy way to measure how well a group is doing. No offense to any MYs but that album that contained only 1 track shouldn't have sold 1million+ copies.

    Quote from StanGIDLE

    It's exactly that because kpop fans will preorder albums no matter what. All a company has to do is provide packaging and people will preorder it. I think preorders is an easy way to measure how well a group is doing. No offense to any MYs but that album that contained only 1 track shouldn't have sold 1million+ copies.

    I think it's commendable that the fans are willingly throwing money at SM like other companies should learn their ways.


    From slave contracts to physical album inserts, SM truly is paving the way

    I will argue that there's a bigger gap from IVE to LE SSERAFIM in Korea than there's from LE SSERAFIM to IVE internationally.


    For example, when It comes to LE SSERAFIM's biggest western market, the US, they might have archived Hot 100 entries, have more weeks on Spotify US, Billboard 200's entries. Since they are more well promoted to achieve It with the marketing tactics I don't have to mention, cause anyone who follow charts might be aware.


    But does It really say something when we compare real audience's numbers and the gap isn't gapping in touring as much as It is in streaming plataforms?


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    When in comes to LE SSERAFIM's biggest asian market, Japan, they are close, with IVE slightly ahead. Both sold around 170,000 copies on Oricon with their lastest 2025 release. LE SSERAFIM with a single and IVE with an EP, what puts IVE a bit in advantage, because theirs might be more expensive (I didn't actually search due to laziness, but usually singles are cheaper than eps)

    When It comes to touring, both's biggest concerts were/will be in Tokyo Dome. The thing is, IVE sold out their 2 concerts pretty fast, with LE SSERAFIM didn't yet according to their own website and the general tickets were opened since august 23rd. What, in my opinion, puts IVE ahead again, cause It seems they have more actual demand.


    Now... in Korea the gap is gapping.


    IVE has over 1 billion points on Circle Digital Chart, while LE SSERAFIM didn't even surpass 300M yet.


    IVE's sold out 2 fanmeeting dates at KSPO DOME, for concert they are doing 3 dates. I see them easily upgrading their venue soon, so their digital performance is obviously translated into audience.


    TLDR: IVE doesn't deserve to be below LE SSERAFIM on this ranking

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