Do you think 5th gen will be able to make an impact anytime soon?

    Do you? 15

    1. Yes. (5) 33%
    2. No. (10) 67%

    I mean, 3rd gen groups like BTS, BP, and TWICE are not disbanded and are still capable of blowing all other groups out of the water with each release..and we're several years past the end of 3rd gen. Then some 4th gen groups like NJs, LSF, and NMIXX haven't even reached their peak yet.


    Only ILLIT has made any semblance of an impact with Magnetic and even with their peers being unable to match Magnetic's success as of yet, they still haven't reached their peak I'm pretty sure.


    So do you think 5th gen will be able to make an impact any time soon or do you think it will be stalled by the 4th gen ggs that are yet to shine?

    No, because Kpop is much different, it's too crowded. Maybe 7th gen when Kpop will have a totally new fanbase.


    Quote from Bottles

    I think they already have with Allday Project.


    My money is on Hearts2Hearts blowing up if their next song is a hit, I feel like they have loads of momentum right now.

    Allday Project is nowhere near to be in this conversation, neither H2H. Both are a couple of months old groups. Everyone can have a hit song, especially in their debut era, but longevity what matters.


    H2H could be like SNSD was in 2nd gen, a slow burn, but ADP is more like: "rich and popular kids crazy debut" then they will fail to hold onto that momentum eventually. We've seen that so many times. Especially with YG groups.

    1. depends on what one defines "impact" and "soon"


    2. impact generally only arises a long time after a group has "existed" (I can't think of the word right now) - what I mean is new groups don't have much time for much impact and generally need a longer period of time to make an impact


    3. if soon means something like within 1-2 years then unlikely since we still have fourth generation groups doing well not to mention that 3rd gen groups still going really strong. Never say never since anything is possible

  • AllKill VIP

    BTS, BP, and Twice are legacy acts. They have dedicated bases, but no group currently releasing should be worried about BTS and BP, both of whom will be focusing on their own careers again after a short period of group activities, or Twice... I assume they go their own way eventually but JYP might promise the world for more Japan bucks.


    This current crop of new groups have only just begun, so they don't need to make an impact right now, especially as the world turns to poorer economic times and the K-pop boom is stoll fading. They will have a few years to make some kind of noise before ceasing activites (if small- to mid-sized-backed) or winding down for a new act (big-company groups).

    Quote from David33

    No, because Kpop is much different, it's too crowded. Maybe 7th gen when Kpop will have a totally new fanbase.


    Allday Project is nowhere near to be in this conversation, neither H2H. Both are a couple of months old groups. Everyone can have a hit song, especially in their debut era, but longevity what matters.


    H2H could be like SNSD was in 2nd gen, a slow burn, but ADP is more like: "rich and popular kids crazy debut" then they will fail to hold onto that momentum eventually. We've seen that so many times. Especially with YG groups.

    Yeah I think H2H will get their Gee soon, maybe with their next comeback, while Allday Project are somewhere around 2NE1 Fire, so now need their ‘I Don’t Care’ to cement their position.

    Quote from Bottles

    Yeah I think H2H will get their Gee soon, maybe with their next comeback, while Allday Project are somewhere around 2NE1 Fire, so now need their ‘I Don’t Care’ to cement their position.

    agreed. My bet is also on H2H, and I think ADP also needs consistency with another hit song.

  • AllKill VIP
    Quote from CaraFIMIE

    What relevance does this have? Mb if that sounds rude but genuinely.

    It's related to your first sentence.


    That these groups are not really competition of 5th gen. SNSD came back with "Forever 1" and got into the Melon top 5, but 4th gen shouldn't have taken into account SNSD as a peer group that they needed to overcome because SNSD wasn't and isn't a regularly returning group. Likewise, BP isn't one either and neither will BTS as they are legacy groups: come back every feelw years maybe.


    5th gen just needs to focus on 4th gen when we consider the groups that they need to out-impact. If SNSD, BP, etc come and take a number one as groups every few years then so be it.

    Quote from Bottles

    Yeah I think H2H will get their Gee soon, maybe with their next comeback, while Allday Project are somewhere around 2NE1 Fire, so now need their ‘I Don’t Care’ to cement their position.

    2NE1 was consistent for years, that's why I said ADP and H2H is a long way to go.


    Also, a couple of more controversy with Tarzan kid and the only thing they can cement is their disbandment.😅 That kid can't control his nonsense every time he sees a camera.

    Quote from Varenka

    It's related to your first sentence.


    That these groups are not really competition of 5th gen. SNSD came back with "Forever 1" and got into the Melon top 5, but 4th gen shouldn't have taken into account SNSD as a peer group that they needed to overcome because SNSD wasn't and isn't a regularly returning group. Likewise, BP isn't one either and neither will BTS as they are legacy groups: come back every feelw years maybe.


    5th gen just needs to focus on 4th gen when we consider the groups that they need to out-impact. If SNSD, BP, etc come and take a number one as groups every few years then so be it.

    Oh I think I get what you mean but I didn't bring up the 3rd gen groups in terms of competition, I brought them up to kinda showcase the fact that these groups are past their peak and are still capable of pulling such impressive numbers, which CAN end up overshadowing/hindering their juniors from achieving great numbers themselves.


    Take GD for example, he came back and basically sat at the top of Melon charts for months and he didn't budge despite LSF and IVE's comeback. He is not a "competition" in the sense that they have to be actively wary of him, he's just a legacy act, yes, but still a prominent figure that can play a part in the success/acclaim of a group's release.


    Idk if that makes sense but yeah

    Quote from CaraFIMIE

    I mean, 3rd gen groups like BTS, BP, and TWICE are not disbanded and are still capable of blowing all other groups out of the water with each release..and we're several years past the end of 3rd gen. Then some 4th gen groups like NJs, LSF, and NMIXX haven't even reached their peak yet.


    Only ILLIT has made any semblance of an impact with Magnetic and even with their peers being unable to match Magnetic's success as of yet, they still haven't reached their peak I'm pretty sure.


    So do you think 5th gen will be able to make an impact any time soon or do you think it will be stalled by the 4th gen ggs that are yet to shine?

    in korean charts, they are on the rise. you can see bunch of them there with ADP still on the top 5 after months.


    and out of those 3rd gen groups that you mention. only 2 that can pull the numbers, 1 is just back together from the military and not yet doing a comeback. and the other one just release JUMP and still in the top 3.

  • AllKill VIP

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    Quote from trippin

    in korean charts, they are on the rise. you can see bunch of them there with ADP still on the top 5 after months.

    yeah i know, thats why i said none of them have made as much of an impact as magnetic.


    as a matter of fact, none of those songs currently rising will match magentic

    Quote from trippin

    and out of those 3rd gen groups that you mention. only 2 that can pull the numbers, 1 is just back together from the military and not yet doing a comeback. and the other one just release JUMP and still in the top 3.

    thats my point


    if kdh osts werent on the chart, jump would still be blocking aespa and no matter how steadily the 5th gen songs rise, they still wouldnt surpass dirty work

  • AllKill VIP
    Quote from CaraFIMIE

    Oh I think I get what you mean but I didn't bring up the 3rd gen groups in terms of competition, I brought them up to kinda showcase the fact that these groups are past their peak and are still capable of pulling such impressive numbers, which CAN end up overshadowing/hindering their juniors from achieving great numbers themselves.


    Take GD for example, he came back and basically sat at the top of Melon charts for months and he didn't budge despite LSF and IVE's comeback. He is not a "competition" in the sense that they have to be actively wary of him, he's just a legacy act, yes, but still a prominent figure that can play a part in the success/acclaim of a group's release.


    Idk if that makes sense but yeah

    They can pull massive numbers since they've been a while to accumulate big fan bases and a large number of loyal fans. If they were regularly coming back, it may be a problem, but since they don't come back often then it doesn't matter too much.

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