am I the only one who thinks ENHYPEN is joking and some stans are making the issue bigger than it is

The moment the one being the joke isn't laughing and clearly uncomfortable the joke stop being something good.

I know nothing about this group whatsoever but I saw the recent clip in question and genuinely I cannot see at all how anyone could interpret that as bullying or "fat shaming". They are literally grown ass men and THEY AREN'T EVEN FAT, so I just don't get it. Maybe more appropriate to say body shaming. I mean, I'm a guy with plenty of guy friends and we say much much much worse stuff to each other in jest.

Idk, it just feels like a case of people being overly sensitive and infantilizing idols, but maybe I'm wrong since I'm basing it off 1 clip.

Maybe an inside joke? but once can be excused but a few times seems like a underlining issue are they trying to force him into an eating disorder

I don't know about the jokes, but It sounds pretty mean to me

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I know nothing about this group whatsoever but I saw the recent clip in question and genuinely I cannot see at all how anyone could interpret that as bullying or "fat shaming". They are literally grown ass men and THEY AREN'T EVEN FAT, so I just don't get it. Maybe more appropriate to say body shaming. I mean, I'm a guy with plenty of guy friends and we say much much much worse stuff to each other in jest.

Idk, it just feels like a case of people being overly sensitive and infantilizing idols, but maybe I'm wrong since I'm basing it off 1 clip.

If this is not fatshaming Idk what it is

And there are even more moments. It is just a few of them.

Also not only that, I’ve seen many remarks made by them to Sunoo about his mannerisms(as if he is too feminine, and should act more like a man). If I find that clip I will post it too.

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If this is not fatshaming Idk what it is

And there are even more moments. It is just a few of them.

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I thought you had to actually be fat in order for it be considered fat shaming but I guess not.

To me it still just looks like some joking between guys, but everyone is different and maybe this Sunoo fella is actually uncomfortable. Also these clips are like always accompanied with some added sad music and weird zoom-ins that make it seem worse. Just seems like manufactured drama to me but that is just 1 persons opinion.

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yeah sounds like a really good jokes when it have this type of impact on someone

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what impact? Again out of context clips with sad music and forced zoom ins, kpop stans are so weird. Bro is literally smiling in all these clips lmao

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I thought you had to actually be fat in order for it be considered fat shaming but I guess not.

you don’t have to be like that. They just gaslight you that you are like that, so that you will form some insecurities. Also they bring up his weight in any random situations.

Like this happened a few months ago.

Ni-ki brings up Sunoo’s weight in a random fan call.

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you don’t have to be like that. They just gaslight you that you are like that, so that you will form some insecurities. Also they bring up his weight in any random situations.

Like this happened a few months ago.

Ni-ki brings up Sunoo’s weight in a random fan call.

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Yea now I'm actually curious and looking up more regarding this, some of it is a bit sus and I can see how it could effect him.

I just really don't see the "obvious discomfort" in the clips being linked, but maybe that's just a me problem.

Though it does seem the fandom is divided on this, many comments are saying this is just to stir up drama.

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Yea now I'm actually curious and looking up more regarding this, some of it is a bit sus and I can see how it could effect him.

I just really don't see the "obvious discomfort" in the clips being linked, but maybe that's just a me problem.

Though it does seem the fandom is divided on this, many comments are saying this is just to stir up drama.

The fandom is divided bc the popular ones are the ones making the jokes..

I think when you repeatedly do this towards just 1 member then I can see why some fans find it weird. They are a big group, but just 1 is constantly the center of "bad" (imo) jokes.

From what I've seen (clips, so may not be the whole picture ofc), they take the piss out of him from his mannerisms to his weight quite a bit. A few jokes here and there, okay, but if he becomes the butt of all jokes (and it seems he is), then that could be construed as bullying.

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Yea now I'm actually curious and looking up more regarding this, some of it is a bit sus and I can see how it could effect him.

I just really don't see the "obvious discomfort" in the clips being linked, but maybe that's just a me problem.

Though it does seem the fandom is divided on this, many comments are saying this is just to stir up drama.

IMO reason for him to put rubber bands on his ears is also because of comments like these by his members. Rubber bands help to swallow your cheeks(or lymphatic muscles)

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To say he is not "cool like them" is just further perpetuating the "other" ness Sunoo has already been victim of by fans and the members even as far back as when ILand season one was happening.

You are just reinforcing their behaviors by saying stuff like that. If it was a one time joke or something he also joked with it would be different but he has asked them to stop in the middle of filming shows, with the cameras still on, a few times now. When someone asks you to stop, you stop.

So Sunoo asked some times for them to stop the jokes?

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The fandom is divided bc the popular ones are the ones making the jokes..

I think when you repeatedly do this towards just 1 member then I can see why some fans find it weird. They are a big group, but just 1 is constantly the center of "bad" (imo) jokes.

oh that is interesting. I can see how fans have a problem with it, and how it could be potentially uncomfortable for him, especially when done constantly in front a camera. But like I said to taemin, I just really don't see him being "clearly uncomfortable" in the clips but again that might just be a me problem. But don't mind me I'm just a silly gg stan who strayed too far today.

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oh that is interesting. I can see how fans have a problem with it, and how it could be potentially uncomfortable for him, especially when done constantly in front a camera. But like I said to taemin, I just really don't see him being "clearly uncomfortable" in the clips but again that might just be a me problem. But don't mind me I'm just a silly gg stan who strayed too far today.

I always don't like when it's just 1 member getting the jokes in any group for any reason bc it feels embarrassing imo, I would dislike being the laughingstock in my group of friends so I guess some fans might think like this too.

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THEY CONTINUED IT IN A FAN CALL? Bruh what the heck ?

I remember this clearly. It happened last year in October or November, and engenes again covered up everything. But this time I think it got really big, that they couldn’t brush it under the rug.

Also, these remarks towards him are what we are seeing publicly(on tv shows, variety content and etc), imagine what are they gonna say behind the cameras?

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Also, these remarks towards him are what we are seeing publicly(on tv shows, variety content and etc), imagine what are they gonna say behind the cameras?

They'll probably poke at his waist, even grabbing it, calling him porker and fatty

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I am trying to find the clip from one of the lives they did, where they called him an "Elephant" it seems it has been wiped off Twitter and even in the SportKeeda article that talks about it, the clips are no longer available. When I try to pull it up on google via the link to it, it gives the DMCA takedown request reference. So HYBE issued a DMCA for it, apparently.

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Imagine calling your band mate an Elephant.😢

at this point i feel like it might be staged and the company's telling them to do it

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I am trying to find the clip from one of the lives they did, where they called him an "Elephant" it seems it has been wiped off Twitter and even in the SportKeeda article that talks about it, the clips are no longer available. When I try to pull it up on google via the link to it, it gives the DMCA takedown request reference. So HYBE issued a DMCA for it, apparently.

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Hybe doing their job.. but welp, I believe in you and seeing how his stans are sooo tired of this I supposed it was bc Sunoo must have felt uncomfortable and showed it.

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I cannot imagine calling ANYONE an Elephant except actual Elephant animals.

I could only call someone an elephant when I wanted to say “you got a memory like an elephant”. 😢

Hybe's gotta keep that squeaky clean image somehow...

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I could only call someone an elephant when I wanted to say “you got a memory like an elephant”. 😢

I think there's a compilation on various incidents on Twitter somewhere with the clip...

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If that is the case, that is a really bad PR plan. Like I know PR reps joke all press is good press but that is not the case.

nah cuz this was literally one of the FIRST THINGS i learned about the group, just like others have said

back when i was going through my bg stan phase, i tried to get into them but the things they say sometimes gave me the ick

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I think there's a compilation on various incidents on Twitter somewhere with the clip...

I’m trying to search it on TikTok too, but so far I couldn’t find it.