Honest take : Lisa should stop taking on high profile events when she cannot deliver

The negativity I've seen swirling around her inclusion in that James Bond tribute at the Oscars has been intense, to say the least. And it's not just the usual chirping from antis and fans of other K-Pop groups.

There has been legitimate noise and serious heat outside of the K-Pop sphere.

Rolling Stone even recently joined the action

Well yeah. She's getting immense hate because of her rich zionist boyfriend buying her all those gigs. I don't know why she let's that happen. Either she likes the new power or she's getting too big for her britches. Either way I know she's usually very humble.

This might be a long post

The Entertainment industry is built on nepotism and connections. The main issue with Lisa is her team is setting her up and not subtly using her connections.

Her team's major decisions so far

White Lotus = great decision

Being on the cover of Vanity Fair Hollywood cover = bad

Performing at the Victoria Secret show = Smart

Oscars performance =Not a wise decision

It's okay to use connections but her team needs to be smarter about it. I am starting to see stuff spill over to outside of kpop calling her a plant because how much they're pushing her. The plant allegations aren't good in the US market and you have to showcase a lot of talent to overcome it. I like Lisa a lot but I don't think she has the talent to overcome plant allegations in the US market.

The major issue Lisa will have with connecting with US audience is her concept. Her current style of being mainly a rapper rapping about money and how rich and bad she is. Is just not going to go over that well in the US market. She needs to make more relatable music and speak more about her experiences because there wasn't much connections to be had with her album. Lisa is a kind and interesting person and there's plenty of things she can sing about. I am not saying for her to make ballads but she can sing about her life experiences, love life, adapting to new environment, and a lot of other stuff that isn't about how rich and bad she is. Based on her songs so far all we know is she's rich and care about material things and I feel she's much deeper than that as a person. I think this is why there seems to be a lost connection with Lisa and people outside her fanbase

Also, her presentation seems off and unsure why she's not creating songs to showcase talent. Lisa should be following what Tate McRae is doing and focusing more on performance rather vocals. Not saying Tate's vocals are bad but her presentation is billed more as the next Britney where performance is focused more but will still provide you with good songs. So far Lisa hasn't utilized what she's know for which is dancing and performance and it seems odds she's ignoring what made people think highly of her.

Unsure why she hasn't given us a song to showcase her dancing like the video below. This video went viral outside of kpop and she hasn't given us anything close to this. So far none of her songs will allow her to have this kind of performance, so it all seems odd she's ignoring this aspect of her abilities.

Overall, it's okay to use connections but be more subtle about it. She can still salvage things with the US market but I think she needs to focus more on performance. Her team needs to lock in and create music that will showcase her dancing abilities and work on lyrics. I think if she does that she can recover from the current hate she's facing

I have yet to hear her sing live. That's the most annoying part to me. Can we normalize live vocals? Do people not miss them?

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The major issue Lisa will have with connecting with US audience is her concept. Her current style of being mainly a rapper rapping about money and how rich and bad she is. Is just not going to go over that well in the US market. She needs to make more relatable music and speak more about her experiences because there wasn't much connections to be had with her album. Lisa is a kind and interesting person and there's plenty of things she can sing about. I am not saying for her to make ballads but she can sing about her life experiences, love life, adapting to new environment, and a lot of other stuff that isn't about how rich and bad she is. Based on her songs so far all we know is she's rich and care about material things and I feel she's much deeper than that as a person. I think this is why there seems to be a lost connection with Lisa and people outside her fanbase

You really hit the nail on the head. I think her album lacking personality, especially her personality really made the issue worse. Western artists survive more on their personality and selling that their music is personal to them far more than idols do. The music just emphasised the issue which is why you've got articles with headlines like this from the guardian 'Lisa: Alter Ego review – a focus group-tested attempt at megastar success'.

Its wild to see them fumble her so badly despite all the resources and people with industry knowhow to hand. Her team don't know how to select resources to build her foundations or her image so are grabbing everything and not thinking of how it will impact or suit her. It's not even like they don't have references to draw from, theres Paula Abdul, JLo and to some extent even Britney, Janet and Boa. If they did it well enough, even the lyrics wouldn't be too big of an issue. I think they focused so much on making sure she could sing live as is expected of western acts, but forgot that we make exceptions when it comes to dance focused acts.

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You really hit the nail on the head. I think her album lacking personality, especially her personality really made the issue worse. Western artists survive more on their personality and selling that their music is personal to them far more than idols do. The music just emphasised the issue which is why you've got articles with headlines like this from the guardian 'Lisa: Alter Ego review – a focus group-tested attempt at megastar success'.

Its wild to see them fumble her so badly despite all the resources and people with industry knowhow to hand. Her team don't know how to select resources to build her foundations or her image so are grabbing everything and not thinking of how it will impact or suit her. It's not even like they don't have references to draw from, theres Paula Abdul, JLo and to some extent even Britney, Janet and Boa. If they did it well enough, even the lyrics wouldn't be too big of an issue. I think they focused so much on making sure she could sing live as is expected of western acts, but forgot that we make exceptions when it comes to dance focused acts.

Agreed, it's confusing. What I find weird they have Tate McRae on her label RCA and they aren't using her as a source of reference. Not saying for her to copy Tate but it's the path she needed to go. She's not a vocalist like Olivia Rodrigo and doesn't have the personality in her music like Sabrina, and that's okay. It's just confusing that they're not focusing on performance aspect of Lisa because that is how she won people over. Right now a big part of Tate's success is her performance and having good songs that allow her to do her thing.

I can't think of a song she released so far that would allow her to perform. There were chances in Rockstar to show choreography that she's known for her but they shied away from it. If I was in charge I would look at Tate, Ciara, Tinashe,, Janet,Britney, etc. A lot of the past and current popstars didn't shy away from incorporating dance into their artistry and received praised for it. Lisa needs to do that for her comeback because this is all salvageable but needs to go back to the drawing board and cool it on gigs like the Oscar performance

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Agreed, it's confusing. What I find weird they have Tate McRae on her label RCA and they aren't using her as a source of reference. Not saying for her to copy Tate but it's the path she needed to go. She's not a vocalist like Olivia Rodrigo and doesn't have the personality in her music like Sabrina, and that's okay. It's just confusing that they're not focusing on performance aspect of Lisa because that is how she won people over. Right now a big part of Tate's success is her performance and having good songs that allow her to do her thing.

I can't think of a song she released so far that would allow her to perform. There were chances in Rockstar to show choreography that she's known for her but they shied away from it. If I was in charge I would look at Tate, Ciara, Tinashe,, Janet,Britney, etc. A lot of the past and current popstars didn't shy away from incorporating dance into their artistry and received praised for it. Lisa needs to do that for her comeback because this is all salvageable but needs to go back to the drawing board and cool it on gigs like the Oscar performance

I kind of wonder about that. I feel like if they were under different agencies, they would have gone for the direct confrontation and tried to use means to lower Tates coverage to show off Lisa, but since she is with them, they had to go a different route. Tate is a rising name so she needs to build her image and support whilst Lisa already has her own fandom, following and industry support (which means they won't make as much money from her with the contract split) so they don't really need to build her up.

Its an interesting choice when its not like multiple artists with the same kind of selling points haven't promoted at the same time. I wonder how worried they were about the optics of favouritism and industry push if they were both in the same lane.

But lets also not forget, the moment they all left YG they were drowning in offers and opportunities, but never learnt how to be selective about them under YG. I wonder if she is doing this purposely because she wanted to show she had more going for her than dance? Maybe it has something to do with something YG said. Its not like he is known for being nice to his female idols.

I'd also point out, many have said for years that the kpop dance push and how thin they want their idols to be is incompatible with long careers. They simply don't have the physical strength to pull off some dance moves without injury or causing long term health issues (side note RIP to all idol joints especially knees). They really have three choices, keep doing the idol dances and she'll have to retire early, gain weight so she can keep dancing for a long time, or stay the same but severely limit dancing and go a different direction for her solo. Since they've gone for choice three, maybe they think some of her fans would not react well if she gained weight (and considering how kpop fans can be, maybe they have a point).

Honestly, it could be for a million reasons, either way it will be interesting to see if anything changes going forward.

OP is jealous because he/she can't take selfies like this.

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The major issue Lisa will have with connecting with US audience is her concept. Her current style of being mainly a rapper rapping about money and how rich and bad she is. Is just not going to go over that well in the US market. She needs to make more relatable music and speak more about her experiences because there wasn't much connections to be had with her album. Lisa is a kind and interesting person and there's plenty of things she can sing about. I am not saying for her to make ballads but she can sing about her life experiences, love life, adapting to new environment, and a lot of other stuff that isn't about how rich and bad she is. Based on her songs so far all we know is she's rich and care about material things and I feel she's much deeper than that as a person. I think this is why there seems to be a lost connection with Lisa and people outside her fanbase

This reminds me of the Guardian's review of her album.

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Squint and it’s hard to work out what exactly Lisa stands for, emotionally or conceptually. She is fond of name-checking brands and flexing her wealth, but never in a way that feels revealing or idiosyncratic. A hook such as “When I walk by, I hear them say / That’s money / That’s motherfuckin’ money” on Rapunzel, feels like the kind of shallow regurgitation of American hip-hop tropes that proliferated on Miley Cyrus’s infamous Bangerz album, which already felt outdated when it came out 12 years ago. When she raps, Lisa is only ever flexing, or issuing threats, to the point that when, on the late-album ballad Dream, she sings lovingly about an ex, it feels laughably out of character. The track reveals a surprisingly blunt view of genre: ballads are for soft emotions, while rap is for aggression. We’re in the midst of an era in which Sabrina Carpenter is using her ballads to issue venomous kiss-offs and Doechii is rapping about depression and addiction, making a viewpoint like Lisa’s feel woefully out of date.

Lisa: Alter Ego review – a focus group-tested attempt at megastar success

The Blackpink singer’s high-energy debut solo album, astutely timed to coincide with her role in The White Lotus, is packed with styles and stars that only…

www.theguardian.com

Frankly Oscars are going downhill and they probably are looking to hook up Kpop stars for staying afloat. True of many other festivals/events too.

And they very well know that Kpop fans are suckers for any kind of crumbs and will eat it up.

Oscars viewership by year 2000-2025 | Statista

In 2025, the Oscars audience was 18.1 million in the U.S., down from a viewership of 19.5 million in the previous year.

www.statista.com

From Lisa's perspective, she knows the period between a group's heyday and the time by which a member can achieve solo traction is not too long. And in general only one member of any successful group sustains as successful soloist - so she is trying everything possible.

Not a bad strategy.

And for Fans - the quality of performance matters little. They are already pre-programmed to accept anything from their faves, that is exactly what orgs and idols depend upon,

So I would say the invested parties all got what they were expecting, so 'delivered'.

Don't think the hate she receives has any correlation with her music direction.

She got massive hate since debut.

She was hated by K-Netizens just because she is from SEA.

On social media platforms, a lot of Americans hating on her are Korean-descent American.

Not all Koreans are xenophobic, there are still good Koreans out there though.

She attending those events, I don't think it is one-way that she is using her connection.

Everything she does get attention.

Those events are more than willing to have her.

It is kind of a win-win situation.

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Don't think the hate she receives has any correlation with her music direction.

She got massive hate since debut.

She was hated by K-Netizens just because she is from SEA.

On social media platforms, a lot of Americans hating on her are Korean-descent American.

Not all Koreans are xenophobic, there are still good Koreans out there though.

She attending those events, I don't think it is one-way that she is using her connection.

Everything she does get attention.

Those events are more than willing to have her.

It is kind of a win-win situation.

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It's not a win-win if the most respected critics and publications in the market she's trying to break through in continue to leave scathing reviews of her work.

Normally I write off these kinds of commentaries as jobless and obsessed haters trying their hardest to bury a "rival", but she's not getting a great reaction even if you tune out all the usual toxicity of K-Pop stans.

As long as she makes big money, their fans will be happy. Money is the only important. This is a non-issue, is irrelevant.