Anyone else kinda concerned about how HYBE is handling Katseye?

I am unsure who all has watched the documentary yet, but the girls literally were trained as if they were going to debut under an American label and be promoted as an mainstream girl group. They were never told they were going to be on a survival show, and when they brought up concerns they were told to suck it up.

Manon literally only trained with them for a couple weeks before debut as she was scouted online by HYBE and was given special treatment, she also trained by herself in secret and then was suddenly moved in with the other girls who had all already become accustomed to each other.

Then if you watched the show you know there was a female HYBE staff who admitted multiple times to antagonizing the trainees constantly as she found it fun and entertaining. She also sent one of the girls home for refusing to grovel at her feet essentially, begging to stay, after she was forced to watch that female staff orchestrate drama and tension among girls who got along just fine.

I don't know it all has made me worried and feel sorta icky, as like bruh they literally straight up lied to many kids and adult women, then when they were like WTF, HYBE staff was like "Well you do not deserve any better". Also many of the trainees never used social media before they were forced to when they were suddenly shoved into a documentary and an survival show, with no notice, even if they stated they did not desire to use a social media platform.

Especially in light of HYBE's bad past of mistreating idols and current issue of it. I worry for those girls as the US has even less protections for recording artists, as they are not seen as human beings in courts most of the time.

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Edit: someone just reminded me of this which I forgot about, the psychiatrist who was supposed to help the girls with the mental stress of the situation was paid off by HYBE to expose all of their confidential information that they confided in the doctor for, and to secretly film their sessions. this is DISGUSTING.

Also F--k Mitra Darab and how inhumane she has treated other human beings for her own entertainment.

I do not mean this as a HYBE hate train but after rewatching the documentary, it continues to concern me.

I feel like these two videos are very accurate in my feelings about it all

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Ugh reading things like these really worries me. That company is full of abusive and sadistic bullies. newjeans life into hell if they are forced to stay in that company.

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thebadguy now I am officially anti-hybe

If you want more context, please watch it, but also be prepared to be VERY frustrated and upset.

Honestly, as someone who not only is irritated by people treating others like shite, I was aggravated as I have worked with people like the lady who loved breaking people down in the show. The male dance teacher with the short red hair in the show is by far the healthiest member of management I saw during the whole mess, he stood by the girls not the company, despite them being his employers. Humanity and kindness seems to be a disease to many of the managers in the formation for the group. Like the girls could use some kindness. Not more lies, manipulations and trickery.

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Honestly after seeing all the evil things that hybe has done, its ok to normalise hybe hate train

I am hesitant to go for that as there, are nice people like the dance teacher I mentioned, who constantly argue with their power hungry and inhumane bosses.

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.... did I say something wrong, or did you not know about the show?

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that's fcrazy actually

When I saw the lady pop up on screen announcing they would be playing everyone's psychiatric sessions, for others to know exactly what each girl is experiencing, suffering, their insecurities, etc. I about vomited. LITERALLY.

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In a watching a hazardous trainwreck have it's 9th explosion kinda way

oh so it is just adding to your documentation of the label being shite

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There is no context ever needed for leaking someone's psyc records?? Its actually insane.

And the rest of the things pretty much align with bully culture and power play dynamics that korea is so popular for. If they're that comfortable revealing that in public I wonder wtf do they do behind the scenes.

Yeah......... I do not want to let my mind wander into that wondering. I might get sad

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very…they posted a lot of photos recently with usher who seems super tied up with diddy…

hybe america in general concerns me, anything led by scooter braun is bound to be super toxic.

............ I did not know about that.... KEEP THEM TF AWAY FROM DIDDY

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Who was sent home?

Her name was Lexi, she was actually Bang PD's favorite trainee out of the non Korean trainees, and she went home as the head of the US branch of HYBE was upset that she was aloof, after they aired all of the groups' psych appointments. She literally looked at the exec and said "I agree, it is best for me and my mental health to not be here or continue to be around this environment." Which just made the woman angrier

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It's a strategic decision they went with to make sure it works. They also need to know how they behave under pressure, it's a mega-million dollar survival show/documentary. Sure, the show is problematic, but the end result is phenomenal. Hybe/Geffen legit created world next global pop icons.

Why are you trying so hard constantly to justify their blatant mistreatment and harm towards artists? Like honestly in this case they straight up lied and falsely set up a bunch of girls for one thing, then blindsided them and forced them to log on to social media even if they did not want to. I do not give a single damn about how innovative they may have thought they were, they literally abused a bunch of kids and young adults and deceived them, only being honest to them after years of training and moving away from their homes.

I do not understand why you go to bat so hard for a multimillion dollar company and try to excuse and justify their actions regardless of how horrid they are. THEY SECRETLY FILMED MENTAL HEALTH SESSIONS. How is that okay? It is not. I do not care how much money those execs have it does not excuse that shit.

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LEXIE????

MY SWEET LEXIE???!?!?!

She was the only one I gave to fluffs about during the whole "dream academy" process or whatever it was. The second she was gone, so was my interest.

Looking at reviews for the show right now after I finished it earlier tonight, and it seems you are not alone. Of course even the fan favorite was not safe, all because she did not like the mind games

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That sounds terrible I'm surprised no one's talking about it on twitter etc

Looking it right now, everyone is justifying it all as fine as they are artists. Why am I not shocked...

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I really got "rigged" vibes for this show more than any others. It felt like the fix for certain members was in from the beginning, and woe be unto any others that got in the way.

I got the feel more so that someone was on a power trip and bulldozed whoever did not just silence themselves and gaslight themselves into believing all the crappy things were their own fault and not the powers that be.

Only one who felt shoved in was Manon. It felt like the Wonhee situation all over with her.

Edit: Just like with the Wonhee thing, I do not blame Manon for the corrupt management's actions, I feel horrible as it is not fair to her or the other girls she works with.

Looking at how people keep laughing at this situation on social media and blaming the girls who spoke up about the crap that happened, instead of showing them empathy. .. Holy f--k people are horrible, not all but a good amount. How can they bootlick a group of rich power hungry people so much?

I cannot believe I just of recent, found about the documentary and watched it, and that no one is actually caring about how horribly these girls were treated. Like this sh-t should be just seen as normal.

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I saw the pre-edit

Dont you fucking call me a hybe simp

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I just read it, I am confused, you have not one HYBE thing, and your theme is XG?