The way ITZY is so famous yet a total flop..

    Quote from jimeous

    Except they're not....


    They hardly appear on top 4th gen GG lists and thier songs rank about the same with every comeback, a flop is when a group grossly under performs to expectations.


    Post #3 has links where each member is in Billboard Global's 2023 Top 100 kpop individual artists and they are also in the 2023 Global Top girl groups. This is for all of 3rd gen, 4th gen and 5th gen.

    Edited once, last by K-PL ().

    My prediction is,

    "in the next 10 years no other girl group could ever reach the status of Blackpink's girlies"

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    Why?

    Because people are too lazy to memorize new names and new faces, especially people in the West.

    Now they got to know Blackpink and Jisoo, Jennie, Rosé and Lisa... and then they have no memory left in their brains lol. 😆😂😂

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    Mark my words!

    there are many definitions of the word "flop" as it relates to charting


    1. to not chart at all - fairly obvious that if one fails to enter the charts at all then it's a flop

    2. to not chart as well as previous songs - this is fairly understandable that if a group had a PAK for one song but the next song only made it (let's say to the top 20) then one might argue that since the song didn't do as well as previously then it's a flop

    3. to not chart as well compared to their peers - the question who one's peers are is important since charting is by it's very definition about who one is higher or lower than...some people will say if x charted worse than y then x is a flop

    4. to not chart as well as expectations (this is the most subjective) - here a group flops because there is an expectation that certain groups will perform well whether based on prior success or company reputation...this generally applies to the larger or more popular groups - ie. if IU failed to chart (maybe) in the top 5 then one might argue that because of IU's prior successes then her level of expectations is much higher than a lesser known artist or group...


    and that's only as it related to charting


    for itzy's case one might argue that their earlier songs charted well and thus there was some expectation that they would continue that thread and continue to chart well

    secondly amongst the earlier fourth gen GG it would seem like they aren't charting as well compared to their peers (Aespa/Gidle???) let alone all of the top fourth gen GG

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