Is ONCE right when they claim NewJeans won't tour soon cause they fear having no sell out stadiums?

    Now is the time to strike. IVE has already toured almost 5 times it seems. That's where the real money is so I don't understand why New Jeans isn't doing a world tour this year. Maybe they are scared or they are trying to copy f(x) and wait and have one on the last year of their career and then retire.


    I don't stan any of these groups but I get where ONCE is coming from. The amount of people paying to go see them is astronomical for a girl group. They put in the work all these years and now it's really time to get mad paid. New Jeans is the hot new thing and are putting up crazy numbers on streaming and album sales but until New Jeans can convince 1.5 million people to leave the house, drive all the way to the concert, pay for an expensive ticket and expensive snacks and drinks, enjoy a show, then drive back home and go to work or school the next day on 2 hours sleep, I have to agree with ONCE and say Twice is still bigger than them in 2024.


    At this point I feel Red Velvet could outsell New Jeans in a concert. Or Lisa by herself.


    I'd still rather go to Young Posse concert than any of these groups. At least I'd have an excuse if I get caught sneaking in my own macaroni and cheese snack.

    They could and probably would sell-out every venue. I mean, they're already breaking BP's records, and they pretty big worldwide too.


    Also, I get people like to make assumptions, some fans are even jealous for the success of other groups. To be honest, I don't get why Twice fans would be jealous, because they have great numbers too.


    Don't forget, people said the same thing about Mamamoo last year, and they hardly comparable to any mainstream Kpop group, when it comes to hype. Yet, they broke BP's record and became the #1 US debut tour. Now, people say the same thing about IU: "She's not a big name outside of Asia. She won't sell-out any stadium in the US or in Europe." etc, but I'm 100% sure that IU could sell-out the biggest stadiums in the world. If Mamamoo did it without any PR, IU and NewJeans could do it with TWO hands tied behind their backs.


    One more thing: NJ has like 20 songs so far? If we don't count instrumentals and remixes, just the main songs. That's not a lot for doing a World Tour. They need at least 2 more EP or a Full-Album to start to think about a World Tour.

    Quote from David33

    They could and probably would sell-out every venue. I mean, they're already braking BP's records, and they pretty big worldwide too.


    Also, I get people like to make assumptions, some fans are even jealous for the success of other groups. To be honest, I don't get why Twice fans would be jealous, because they have great numbers too.


    Don't forget, people said the same thing about Mamamoo last year, and they hardly comparable to any mainstream Kpop group, when it comes to hype. Yet, they broke BP's record and became the #1 US debut tour. Now, people say the same thing about IU: "She's not a big name outside of Asia. She won't sell any stadium in the US or in Europe." etc, but I'm 100% sure that IU could sell-out the biggest stadiums in the world. If Mamamoo did it without any PR, IU and NewJeans could do it with TWO hands tied behind their backs.

    :pepe-shame:

    IU past her prime. She can't sell out in 2024.

    Quote from Drew_B

    IU past her prime. She can't sell out in 2024.

    Past her prime? Please, don't make jokes like this.


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    IU is not an idiot, she knows where she can sell-out stadiums. People will see it soon enough. Mamamoo past their prime last year too, it was their 9th anniversary, yet they broke the record. IU is much bigger, worldwide, too. Some Kpop fans think, people only love IU because of her songs, but she's an actress too.

  • AllKill VIP
    Quote from icyruios

    Their combined discography of their 1min 2min songs isn't enough to have a proper setlist, going on tour or even having a concert would be a downright scam

    great point. when IVE started their world tour, they had about 50mins worth of recorded material with the I'VE IVE release. NJs at the moment has only 34, not incl. promos/remixes


    the fandom perspective is that the album will come just before the world tour announcement. the clues are there if you want to go digging into the fandom

  • AllKill VIP
    Quote from KpopJop

    great point. when IVE started their world tour, they had about 50mins worth of recorded material with the I'VE IVE release. NJs at the moment has only 34, not incl. promos/remixes


    the fandom perspective is that the album will come just before the world tour announcement. the clues are there if you want to go digging into the fandom

    I think with 1 more comeback NJs can start thinking of going on tours and concerts.


    I mean IVE is only starting their 1st World Tour (not counting concerts or smaller size overseas concerts) but they are a couple of months earlier than NJs


    I do hope that it is at least a full album for NJs though, and in not talking about those 7 8 songs full albums I'm talking at least 10 songs.

    Quote from icyruios

    I think with 1 more comeback NJs can start thinking of going on tours and concerts.


    I mean IVE is only starting their 1st World Tour (not counting concerts or smaller size overseas concerts) but they are a couple of months earlier than NJs


    I do hope that it is at least a full album for NJs though, and in not talking about those 7 8 songs full albums I'm talking at least 10 songs.

    i did the maths cause im a feckin loser, you're right


    IVE's arena setlist= 25 songs (incl. 6 covers) -> 19 songs (no covers)

    NJ's Lolla setlist = 12 songs (no covers)


    So if NJ follow IVE's plan (and it's a good show I've heard), they gotta relase about 7 more originals, which is less than the bare minimum for an album. then they add on 5 covers


    they need an album!

    Quote from icyruios

    I think with 1 more comeback NJs can start thinking of going on tours and concerts.


    I mean IVE is only starting their 1st World Tour (not counting concerts or smaller size overseas concerts) but they are a couple of months earlier than NJs


    I do hope that it is at least a full album for NJs though, and in not talking about those 7 8 songs full albums I'm talking at least 10 songs.

    NJ would have enough material by now if their songs weren't 2 minuets long. Dont' they already have double the amount of songs than BP at the same point in their career?

    Hyein impact?

  • AllKill VIP

    I don't know when NewJeans will start touring, but I do know it won't be in stadiums. NO ONE goes straight to touring stadiums, and for anyone who once again need reminding, you could count the number of Kpop acts who've done it on your hand. Being the latest trend doesn't guarantee you'll repeat that sort of success. There's also the pressing matter of them not having enough songs to hold a proper concert yet, regardless of venue size. And as much as their fans will make excuses, we also can't ignore the fact that they were already scheduled to perform in a stadium in the US, along with other artists, and that shit got cancelled due to lack of interest. Not the best of omens. I won't hold any ill will for the group if they make it, but their fans need to stop putting the cart before the horse.


    On an unrelated note, IU being able to tour stadiums outside of S. Korea is one of the funniest things I've ever read, so this thread was still worth it for that alone.

    Quote from Drew_B

    Now is the time to strike. IVE has already toured almost 5 times it seems. That's where the real money is so I don't understand why New Jeans isn't doing a world tour this year. Maybe they are scared or they are trying to copy f(x) and wait and have one on the last year of their career and then retire.


    Ive 5 times tour?? What tour?


    They only had 1 fanmeeting tour - Prom Queen and 1 world tour - Show What I Have


    Upcoming another fanmeeting in seoul

    Quote from KpopJop

    great point. when IVE started their world tour, they had about 50mins worth of recorded material with the I'VE IVE release. NJs at the moment has only 34, not incl. promos/remixes


    the fandom perspective is that the album will come just before the world tour announcement. the clues are there if you want to go digging into the fandom

    If im not mistaken, LSRF also go into tour after they released Unforgiven which gave them discography of about 49mins only (excluding all remixes and PN)

    Quote from gerrard174

    If im not mistaken, LSRF also go into tour after they released Unforgiven which gave them discography of about 49mins only (excluding all remixes and PN)

    yeah, about 50 mins of material seems to be the comfortable place to start headlining tours. NJ with 34 mins of songs made a 47 minute Lolla set. they're close but not there yet

    Quote from KpopJop

    yeah, about 50 mins of material seems to be the comfortable place to start headlining tours. NJ with 34 mins of songs made a 47 minute Lolla set. they're close but not there yet

    Or they can be like BP 🤣🤣


    BP started their first tour with 9 songs only. They made up the rest with covers + solo covers + Jennie's solo. Encore was remixes.


    (The 9 songs thingy was the biggest factor I refuse to see the concert. I waited till they have more materials to see them)

    Yes, the issue with a NewJeans tour is a matter of discography not demand.


    I would feel ripped off paying the money required for good seats at any A tier K-Pop group's concert, when they have as few songs as NewJeans.


    Patience. There is literally no reason to rush it. NewJeans aren't even TWO years old yet

    Quote from YamaChwan

    That is a total lie and utter nonsense.


    It was a poorly planned and advertised Immortal Song 2 concert, and from what I heard from the people who went, it was a total shit show.


    Makes sense why NewJeans pulled out


    Quote from YamaChwan

    Yes, the issue with a NewJeans tour is a matter of discography not demand.


    I would feel ripped off paying the money required for good seats at any A tier K-Pop group's concert, when they have as few songs as NewJeans.


    Patience. There is literally no reason to rush it. NewJeans aren't even TWO years old yet

    But my patience is running thin with NJ and their fans. The not enough songs excuse sounds a lot like the tickets are too expensive excuse when someone's faves are't reaching their goal with a concert.

    would doing a fan meet tour with songs + covers + and some dance remix be enough to do that? dont kpop fans love it when idols do covers of other songs. i come across idols doing covers and people going apeshit.

    would the money earns from those outweigh cost?

    pretty much every group did some sort of mini tours before or at 1year no?

    they are the number 1 group as some would say so they should have no problem selling out even a 3 to 4 stop mini fan meet tours.

    Quote from Drew_B

    But my patience is running thin with NJ and their fans. The not enough songs excuse sounds a lot like the tickets are too expensive excuse when someone's faves are't reaching their goal with a concert.

    Their performed their entire discography at Lolla in 45 minutes, with breaks to greet the fans and have a photo opp and chat.


    There aren't enough songs my dude.

    Quote from Rarami

    would doing a fan meet tour with songs + covers + and some dance remix be enough to do that? dont kpop fans love it when idols do covers of other songs. i come across idols doing covers and people going apeshit.

    would the money earns from those outweigh cost?

    pretty much every group did some sort of mini tours before or at 1year no?

    they are the number 1 group as some would say so they should have no problem selling out even a 3 to 4 stop mini fan meet tours.

    This is what I feel like also. If New Jeans are as big as their fans claim then they should be able to do a massive tour on covers alone.

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