Is 4th the generation with the biggest amount of popular korean groups on Japan?

  • Also why every people need to remember that none of these 4th gen group had the impact of 3rd gen or 2nd gen

    When it's not even OP question


    OP is clearly talking in term of amount of kpop act doing well in japan not in term of success overall or impact 😔😔

    T-ara had a contract of almost 5m with a japanese company, the highest at that time, and hold a fanmeeting with 3k people. If people forget that when talking about success in Japan imagine how many more groups that achieved similar feats are being ignored?

    I think because of recency bias, it looks like 4th gen is doing better.

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  • Well that's what you'd call success, no?


    I mean OP's argument seems to be based on the digipack era album sales, nothing else. How many groups are actually recognized among public like BigBang, TVXQ, SNSD, KARA?

    I never said It's only based on album sales, let alone korean digipack albums which are mostly imported and not distributed by japanese companies, so less acessible. I validate multiple metrics as success, including the ones I'm not aware of, but you can always disagree If you want.

  • I never said It's only based on album sales, let alone korean digipack albums which are mostly imported and not distributed by japanese companies, so less acessible. I validate multiple metrics as success, including the ones I'm not aware of, but you can always disagree If you want.

    They do digipacks for Japanese albums as well.


    What other metrics are you referring to? I mean so far among ggs it is Ive and Le Sserafim, both have Izone members as well as Japanese members. NJ, Itzy, Nmixx and Aespa don't seem to be getting particularly great attention.

  • Cause I think that there was a lot of other popular groups in Japan during 2nd gen as well, we just don't remember them because top4 are titans in comparison. For example t-ara and shinee, imo they were on the same level as popular 4th gen groups, and I just remembered the first 2 that came to mind. That's why I feel 2nd gen was bigger, it was the definition of Hallyu

    SS501 too, Kim Hyun Joong as solo even had gold certified albums in Japan. Jang Geun Seuk whom Koreans only know as an actor had a singer career primarily in Japan. Too many decent performers to even mention. There literally were group that were treating Japan as their primary market, like Supernova for example.

  • SS501 too, Kim Hyun Joong as solo even had gold certified albums in Japan. Jang Geun Seuk whom Koreans only know as an actor had a singer career primarily in Japan. Too many decent performers to even mention. There literally were group that were treating Japan as their primary market, like Supernova for example.

    Yes, even groups considered nugu had decent popularity there.

    No one remembers Boyfriend but they sang the opening of Detective Conan and had a contract with Hello Kitty. In fact, I think no one remembers them bc Starship kind of gave up on them and they basically became a j-pop group with k-releases once in a while.

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  • They do digipacks for Japanese albums as well.


    What other metrics are you referring to? I mean so far among ggs it is Ive and Le Sserafim, both have Izone members as well as Japanese members. NJ, Itzy, Nmixx and Aespa don't seem to be getting particularly great attention.

    Oh, I know. It's just that releasing jewel cases/digipacks/individual versions didn't get traction nowdays and It's a feature being used across generations, what doesn't matter much, because for eps/full they are more expensive than korean's, so I just implied you were talking about korean ones. My bad.


    Digital performance and touring for me are also valid. For example, I mentioned ITZY because, despite they don't having great physicals, they had songs doing well in streaming plataforms - ICY and Wannabe - and collected Riaj certifications due to it in a moment of their career. Recently, they are really not getting attention, but JYP didn't capitalize well in their growth potential in rookie years, so It's a consequence.


    I disagree with NewJeans, OMG and Ditto are currently on Top 10 of all streaming plataforms of Japan since It's release and even upgraded the debut songs' performances. They didn't debut there yet and didn't have a physical and digital release after blowing up in popularity recently, so I still can't measure how It will translate to an actual following, but they are doing well.


    I confess I don't know much about aespa and It doesn't help they didn't debut yet too, but their last two korean physical albums sold over 80k and 100k on Oricon (iirc) and they are touring doing concerts in a relative big venue (SSA)


    NMIXX still have to show something, I agree.

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