Why Did JESSI & WINNER MINO Fall Off???

I didn't wanna make two separate threads asking the same question about both lol, so I put them in one.

But yeah it seem like after Jessi left PNation, she haven't been making any noise.

Plus she also lost her showterview show to Sunmi.

Her touring been alright, but I heard one dude scammed her and took her touring money.

Far as in Mino, he visually fell off..to ME.

His recent music hasn't hit the same , and haven't made waves since 2019 or 2020 if that.

He's definitely not talked about anymore frfr but along his fans, who I think aren't many anymore.

And his styling got sooo bad as well. Like he used to take care of his self so good, and put a lot of efforts into his looks, but now...

He went from this - - -

His CONFIDENCE, SWAG, AND AURA..ugghh, I miss it.

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To this in less than 2 years - - -

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WHAT HAPPENED?? WHAT DO YOU THINK??? WHY PEOPLE DONT CARE ABOUT THEM ANYMORE?

Quote from Lulu_Key

mean

He lost his father.

In I live alone he admitted that he cant take care of himself much. He is probably not in the best place.

I really feel like Jessi got replaced by youngji? like their persona had some overlap.

Sound about right, far as in something traumatic happening, where he cant think properly, plus his military is coming up too i believe.

and yeah I remember seeing someone say Youngji is the younger Jessi, just not as vulgar lol

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I'd add Hwasa to this list. I'd actually put her above the two even. Seriously, what happened? She was making waves with her every step. I repeat, what happened?

Its crazy cuz HWASA was THEE girl back in 2018-2019.

Like i remember thats when i first came across her around the beginning of 2019, and i wanted to be like her so bad.

Around that time, MAMAMOO was still promoting Gogobebe a little bit, far as in dancing at 1Million Dance Studio and performing it at some concerts.

And that dance studio video...girl I watched this thing too many times, looking at HWASA charisma, and for some reason I was sooooo in love with how long her hair was (at the time I didn't know idols wore wigs and extensions)

I was so on her line, that I went and bought me a long black wig, so I can have long hair like her.

Well it wasn't intentional, cuz I was looking for a different wig, but the place didn't have what I wanted, so I saw the long black hair wig, and at first I didn't like it, BUT then I thought about HWASA lmao, and how her hair looked. So I told myself I'll wear it the way she do, and make sure my makeup look good with it as well😂

Quote from Lulu_Key

yikes not very nice

Genuine question, is this your first year in Kpop?

Quote from Hopkinz

Jessi hasn't released music since leaving P Nation.

Mino also hasn't done anything besides a Winner song like 10 months ago

I get the her not releasing thing, since she still not signed to a label I believe, but even then, she still used to do variety shows when she wasn't releasing anything.

Which brings me back to PNation, and most likely Psy was the one getting her on these shows and other events...cuz thats what it seemed like happened

And even musically, Mino solo songs from 2021 and 2020 didnt hit frfr

Quote from Lulu_Key

no

some people never get used to the mean demeanor of kpop stans. I guess Im one of them

okay yeah, that sounds like what it is lol.

cuz the "thats so mean" and "how rude of you" seemed very new-ish to me.

thats why I thought it was ur first time or something cuz what I said about his visuals not appealing to me definitely wasn't harsh.. Especially stuff I've seen kpop fans say about idols.. Lol I think me saying someone visually don't look good to me anymore isn't as bad as someone saying "this idol ugly asf" or "this person is a old hag who need to retire etc etc".. Cuz I've never said that before😂.

But yeah we all different though, which is good✨

Quote from Hopkinz

Yeah she really fell into obscurity. This comeback underperformed extremely and it's crazy because Maria was a megahit

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Funny cuz when i first heard "Im a B", i did say to myself how it kinda lacked and felt too mellow or didnt have a boom moment in the song.

After hearing it multiple times, i definitely love it now, but just speaking for when it FIRST came out, I thought it was more of a 'okay' song, than a 'wow' song.

And I think she need another Pop song, cuz she do well with those, or R&B style song like that duet Single she did with Loco "Don't give it to me" , and have her label promote it and market it more, plus have her at award shows, so she can get her clout back up. Cuz right now she living off her glory days

Quote from Dreamer95

Tbh, Maria wasn't doing great at first, before the tiktok challenges went viral. RBW's promotion is on par with JYP, they just wait for the artist to carry the song.

Dang i dont even remember Maria not doing that well when it came out.

I mustve not gave it that much attention at the beginning, cuz I know when I first heard Maria, I knew that song was gonna pop

Quote from red11

Mino may have gained a little weight, but it's healthier than the earlier pics. Dudes rockin those starvation abs in that one pic.

"Starvation abs"

Quote from Lulu_Key

it depends on the situation

If someone let themselves go alittle after sth horrible happening to them, it comes out really mean when people judge them for it.

I still hate fandoms who fat shamed Taemin and Key for gaining alittle weights. They were open about how their therapist/counselor told them to avoid diets at all costs when they are grieving.

It really comes out as mean spirited to shame people for how they look while grieving

As for Jessi, people who call her vulgar are slut shaming her. I cant get behind slut shaming as a woman.

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Well I personally had no knowledge of his father passing, till you responded saying Mino himself said that on a show.

Which if I knew, I probably wouldn't have put that.

But also I feel it still shouldn't take away from the point I was making too, since that was a opinion..a non important opinion at that.

And the post asking why he fell off wasn't just about his visuals, but also musically and everything else.

I just added the pictures to show people what I meant by his major change style wise and appearance wise. But I'm definitely not tryna be a rude person who coming down on someone who going through a hard time..not at all.

For Jessi, that was someone else comment that I had saw on Reddit.

And I believe they was talking about how Jessi cursed all the time, and how she always was making jokes about her boobs or butt in front of male guest, and kinda made explicit jokes on variety shows too..I've seen it myself to agree.

I believe that's what they meant by vulgar... not vulgar as she's a "hoe" or "lets hate on her"