Just here to claim a nice essay I made on anons before it goes away

I had the impression I commented on this thread, cause I remember reading it, but I clicked and none of the comments were mine, I probably forgot to give my two cents lol

Stray Kids did have debut hype through their pre debut show + pre-release, but I understand that it wasn't as much as Txt.

Kinda off topic but thinking about it, the debut hype that txt got made it so the group could experiment with their sound and concept and see what stuck, just thinking about it. Their two years all have different concepts from one another, different sounds too, though there is lore. Stray Kids didn't get much leeway in their debut years imo; They had different sound changes through their singles and shit but much of their concept stuck with 'we're young and angsty'. That's what I think though.

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They had different sound changes through their singles and shit but much of their concept stuck with 'we're young and angsty'.

As someone who followed them close, I disagree. This theme died on Clé Trilogy: God's Menu happened.

I wrote it on other site once, but there's a Stray Kids before this song and one after. And that's cause I see God's Menu more as an acceptance and development of their own identity after the criticism they got and their own doubts. They were presenting their qualities after two trilogies were they expressed what you meant. The angsty came from the fact they were feeling lost, doubting themselves, but trying to convicing themselves that there was nothing wrong with them, everyone has their own pace. If they should do what people want them to do or If they should take the road not taken, until they decided the last one.

Stray Kids' discography is a journey about how they found themselves as artists and how they will mature their artistry and perception. They aren't lost anymore like they used to be, they aren't building an identity like they had time to do, because their perception of themselves has changed over the years and they found their style and sound.

I don't know If It's cause you like their old stuff more than their current stuff, cause I always see you complimenting Miroh etc, but they've changed a lot. Nowdays they and their themes are often much more fun, mischievous, sarcastic and self-confident.

The sad part is that I probably will never have another Side Effects

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As someone who followed them close, I disagree. This theme died on Clé Trilogy: God's Menu happened.

I wrote it on other site once, but there's a Stray Kids before this song and one after. And that's cause I see God's Menu more as an acceptance and development of their own identity after the criticism they got and their own doubts. They were presenting their qualities after two trilogies were they expressed what you meant. The angsty came from the fact they were feeling lost, doubting themselves, but trying to convicing themselves that there was nothing wrong with them, everyone has their own pace. If they should do what people want them to do or If they should take the road not taken, until they decided the last one.

Stray Kids' discography is a journey about how they found themselves as artists and how they will mature their artistry and perception. They aren't lost anymore like they used to be, they aren't building an identity like they had time to do, because their perception of themselves has changed over the years and they found their style and sound.

I don't know If It's cause you like their old stuff more than their current stuff, cause I always see you complimenting Miroh etc, but they've changed a lot. Nowdays they and their themes are often much more fun, mischievous, sarcastic and self-confident.

The sad part is that I probably will never have another Side Effects

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I was talking more about their debut years, before god's menu, but yeah hard agree. Imo Stray Kids showed their 'angsty' side of themselves through similar ways during their two years. That isn't bad though, since it got me to focus on their music more.

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I was talking more about their debut years, before god's menu, but yeah hard agree. Imo Stray Kids showed their 'angsty' side of themselves through similar ways during their two years. That isn't bad though, since it got me to focus on their music more.

I agree their their first two trilogies were more similar in terms of concept and message. For all I wrote before I think It's clear.

JYP groups often set their signature sound and style super early in debut, cause the agency has a clear vision from what they want them to sing about and how It will be embodied.

But Stray Kids followed an opposite route, cause, since It was a experiment, the concept was built around the message they were sending and they had a say on what they wanted. If you give to inexperient teenagers such responsability, some things won't be as polished. Even their productions in the beginning of their career weren't much.

But, to be honest, these things were important, cause I like to analyse their growth in artistry and confidence over the years.

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the concept was built around the message they were sending and they had a say on what they wanted.

This should be how it's done yk? Building the concept aroud the message, the music they're aiming to make. Love that

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This is one of the reasons I love skz

Building the concept around the song used to be what happened but now it’s more building the song around the concept which I don’t like, skz does it, acts like Bdc and Mirae too I think. Would love to see more idols do song over concept

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As someone who followed them close, I disagree. This theme died on Clé Trilogy: God's Menu happened.

I wrote it on other site once, but there's a Stray Kids before this song and one after. And that's cause I see God's Menu more as an acceptance and development of their own identity after the criticism they got and their own doubts. They were presenting their qualities after two trilogies were they expressed what you meant. The angsty came from the fact they were feeling lost, doubting themselves, but trying to convicing themselves that there was nothing wrong with them, everyone has their own pace. If they should do what people want them to do or If they should take the road not taken, until they decided the last one.

Stray Kids' discography is a journey about how they found themselves as artists and how they will mature their artistry and perception. They aren't lost anymore like they used to be, they aren't building an identity like they had time to do, because their perception of themselves has changed over the years and they found their style and sound.

I don't know If It's cause you like their old stuff more than their current stuff, cause I always see you complimenting Miroh etc, but they've changed a lot. Nowdays they and their themes are often much more fun, mischievous, sarcastic and self-confident.

Because I have been following them for a long time, I have seen a lot of opinions about them. And many opinions with which I did not agree. But over the years I found this site https://ca.edubirdie.com/mba-help which provides quality content. So if I want to write a text without mistakes I appeal to it.

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Great insight on the evolution of Stray Kids' music and themes. It's clear that you have followed their journey closely and have a deep understanding of the meaning behind their songs. I agree that "God's Menu" marks a turning point in their discography, not just in terms of their sound and style, but also in terms of their own self-discovery and acceptance as artists. It's interesting to see how they have matured and grown over the years, both as individuals and as a group. Keep up the good work in analyzing and interpreting their music!