Karma really isn't kind to Orbits
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Remember how Orbits have been complaining that their super duper popular girlies have a similar scale tour to flop Dreamcatcher?
Both loona and dreamcatcher flop
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Both loona and dreamcatcher flop
how can they be flop? besites the big company groups there are not much groups as successfull as them.
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thats concerning that they are not able to sell out the venues
Their company doesn't have enough financial stability to deal with concert losses
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It genuinely is the dates thats putting them though the ringer. This is reminding me of Twice circa 2019 when we had members going on hiatus.
If you just look at the NA dates they are giving 1 day in between concerts, and on those dates they are travelling to another state which means hours on a tour bus or at the airport waiting on flights. Then when they arrive they need to practice and get used to the venue, groups normally do a full run through the day before the concert and at least one more the morning of the concert (normally where fans can watch). If they don't manage to sleep well whilst in transit (and not many do) they have no chance to fully rest and recover because the concert ends late (and after getting changed and food its likely to be 1-2am) at which point they need to get ready to get on the road AGAIN later that same day.
If you look at every other groups dates they don't have that volume in such a short period of time with so many different venues. Twice had NA dates and crammed the dates like Loona, but they had 7 concerts, half of what Loona did. When there was need for more, they added them on the END of the tour whilst Loonas were added at the end of the first NA leg so they then only had a week and a half to recover before going to Europe meanwhile twice rested for a MONTH before going onto japan. They even took a full month to rest between the Korean and NA dates.
Their bodies and minds are exhausted and when your exhausted your immune system goes down as well and you fall ill easier and its easier to make mistakes and get injured hence this mess. Plus because they lost members they had to keep reworking the concert to fill their places and flew back to Korea after the NA dates before going to Europe so they didn't even get to rest the whole week they had AND BBC announced that unit song.
i thought 1 day rest is enough. I dont follow many artists that close only Brave Girls, and Loona is probably next in my line. They had 14 shedules in 28 days. BG had 9 in 15 days(It also seems to be a lot less harsh than what BG had seen during rollin reversal). I saw a few more artists. they had similar shedules. But i dont know much. so maybe its unusual and bg just got lucky that they didnt encounter such problems?
BG said its hard for the voices when they have 2 acts without a day rest since they are not used to sing for 2 hours. Maybe also because the member of smaller groups have to sing more lines then the members of bigger groups. But besites that they seem to enjoy the tour.
If you arrive at the venue 6 hours befor concert you can do 1 or if neccessary even 2 runs to practice and get used to the stage.
I think it was yeojin who lost a toenail? that really hurts. At least to me that would be a much better reason to not dance around for 2 hours and take a rest instead. So i still think its individual reasons like this and not the shedule. and a few girls like heejin dont seem to have problems with the shedulde too.
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karma should break ronaldo's leg or something cause SOME of his fans are obnoxious pricks?
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how can they be flop? besites the big company groups there are not much groups as successfull as them.
ignore the troll, they just want a reaction
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i thought 1 day rest is enough. I dont follow many artists that close only Brave Girls, and Loona is probably next in my line. They had 14 shedules in 28 days. BG had 9 in 15 days(It also seems to be a lot less harsh than what BG had seen during rollin reversal). I saw a few more artists. they had similar shedules. But i dont know much. so maybe its unusual and bg just got lucky that they didnt encounter such problems?
BG said its hard for the voices when they have 2 acts without a day rest since they are not used to sing for 2 hours. Maybe also because the member of smaller groups have to sing more lines then the members of bigger groups. But besites that they seem to enjoy the tour.
If you arrive at the venue 6 hours befor concert you can do 1 or if neccessary even 2 runs to practice and get used to the stage.
I think it was yeojin who lost a toenail? that really hurts. At least to me that would be a much better reason to not dance around for 2 hours and take a rest instead. So i still think its individual reasons like this and not the shedule. and a few girls like heejin dont seem to have problems with the shedulde too.
Yeah 1 day between seems to be kind of normal but its the way BBC have done it, that is not normal. Brave girls toured for 2 weeks, had proper rest leading up to it and after it. Closest I can think of in volume is Seventeen who had 12 dates in the US and Canada in 5 weeks, but they had 2 days between concerts. All groups have a break before and after each concert run for a country, normally around a month to 3 weeks. Loona has been on this schedule for a month, had just over a week off where they then had to fly back to Korea then fly onto Europe to continue with the madness.
And like I said, groups take time off to prepare for a tour, normally when groups go on tour they do just that, tour and take time off to prepare for said tour. Twices only did 1 week of music shows to spend the full month preparing for their tour. BBC had them working and doing fan signings (which are long and tiring) then had a week off before beginning the tour. They went straight from Queendom (march to june) to CB (june) to CB fan-signings and promotions (july) to tour (august-now). And remember, just as queendom started 11 members tested positive for covid. Their bodies have not had any time to rest.
And yes not surprised about it being hard on their voices, its why groups tend to do no schedules before tour, they spend that time conditioning their voices and bodies for that kind of strain.
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Yeah 1 day between seems to be kind of normal but its the way BBC have done it, that is not normal. Brave girls toured for 2 weeks, had proper rest leading up to it and after it. Closest I can think of in volume is Seventeen who had 12 dates in the US and Canada in 5 weeks, but they had 2 days between concerts. All groups have a break before and after each concert run for a country, normally around a month to 3 weeks. Loona has been on this schedule for a month, had just over a week off where they then had to fly back to Korea then fly onto Europe to continue with the madness.
And like I said, groups take time off to prepare for a tour, normally when groups go on tour they do just that, tour and take time off to prepare for said tour. Twices only did 1 week of music shows to spend the full month preparing for their tour. BBC had them working and doing fan signings (which are long and tiring) then had a week off before beginning the tour. They went straight from Queendom (march to june) to CB (june) to CB fan-signings and promotions (july) to tour (august-now). And remember, just as queendom started 11 members tested positive for covid. Their bodies have not had any time to rest.
And yes not surprised about it being hard on their voices, its why groups tend to do no schedules before tour, they spend that time conditioning their voices and bodies for that kind of strain.
First of all we both just speculate since we both are not part of their personal surounding.
I thought Idols work much harder than we used to see. they dont need that long to rest. working 5-10 days than have a day or maybe 2 to rest is fine like for all other working people too. Even if they dont have cb or tour they do sports or train dance or singing.
Have you seen BG shedule? after the tour eunji had a few days training then went into 2 weeks promoting on music shows as a feat. in mcminzy cb. yuna had a job as a radio moderator, yujeong had 2 TV-shows to shoot and minyoung was in the studio for some ost. all that while doing the ocational idol stuff attending douzends of festivals, ISAC etc.
QD wasnt that much effort. Loona had enough time to rest and prepare for the cb there. There was only KCON at that time. BG also did half a douzend other festivals, released a coversong, shot an ad, had their SNL korea, yujeong had 2 other TV-shows. yuna a moderator gig. all at the same time. they also catched covid and had an cb prior to QD. And seeing the year prior to this i didnt even though of it much special. I also expected other groups who dont have that much gigs still work as hard as them just doing training or vlogs or smth.
So this happening right now is really a little shock to me.
And im still not convinced the shedule is the problem. Of course the company could have given them much more work behind the secenes, we dont know about. but most girls have no problems. only 4 seem to have different problems. an than the thin air in mexico city is also a special case.
Did the girls say anything? They sometimes criticize bbc but i havened heard anyone recently complaining about the shedule. Because if Yeojin say its her toenail not her exhaustion i tent to believe her more than some orbits.^^
Edit: There are non-big-companies who give the idols 3 weeks or a month doing nothing between shedules? Do they not need to earn money?
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unnecessary thread
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