Losing a member is a bigger damage than having a member caught up in scandal. Le Sserafim had slightly higher chance of hitting big with Garam than without

no

public hold grudge! Le sserafim will be fine without garam

Lol Garam wasnt one of the best dancers in the group, they'll be fine without her voice too. Sakura and Chaewon are showing new sides of themselves now in a smaller group with a whole new different concept. People are loving Yunjin and Kazuha and Eunchae will get her chance to shine as well. Let go of the Garam issue. She was in the group for 2 weeks.

with 2PM, they lost their best dancer and rapper

with EXO, i dont understand why it affected them that much really, only Luhan from the trio was even top5 in the group in terms of popularity

Nah I actually like them more now with less non-PD48 members to learn

We'll see next comeback. And winner and gidle pretty much prove the opposite. Le sserafim has been promoting for 5 for way longer than they did as 6. Also garam wasn't really doing anything other than give the group bad reputation.

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I thought your bad takes are limited to TwicexBP but seems like you're just a walking and breathing collection of bad takes.

Idk why you're obsessed with a girl that was in the group for a couple weeks and showed next to nothing. Theres a lot to be said abt the situation she was in and how Hybe handled that, but she didnt bring anything to the group that isnt already covered by others and that's that.

The comparisons are weird that EXO was "washed up" or "not fresh" after they lost the members when they went onto many of their blockbuster record-breaking years AFTER those members left. A large chunk of the fandom came in as those members left or after (including myself). Now Lay I certainly missed when he left because I knew him and formed an attachment..but again, the group went on to more heights and I think many people who came in later don't even know about him unless watching older content.

That's the nature of kpop groups.

SM handled the Winwin transition out of NCT 127 terribly and there's still bitterness in the fandom about the way it was handled, but there's been such a large influx of fans with Neo Zone and Resonance, who have no attachment to him as a member of 127. (They only know him from WayV and soon enough, no one will know him from that either as he follows the Lay route.) Similarly, the group is much more successful now than it was in those years.

If you have a few hits (or attention-getting songs), the new influx of fans doesn't give a shit who was there before. And that's with groups with a few years under their belts.

Le Sserafim was out for 2 minutes before she left. They'll be fine.

I think they didn't need to add another member again, since they had shown this good dynamic as a 5.

Also their other non-pd48 members could stand out by themselves. Kazuha with her charisma and quirky personality, and eunchae with her maknae-on-top charm

They’re better as 5

As an Exo fan. i think its good that the 3 chinese members left. I joined the fandom after lay went to china to focus on his activities, so there is no attachment there either.

plus its easier to keep up with 8/9 members than 12.

They also felt very fresh as a new kpop fan.

users are correct that their popularity increased even further post 2014

Lesserafilm isn't establishing though, they just debuted.

Member lineup changes in general are a bad idea. Adding members is usually more disastrous than helpful.

In this case, Garam wasn't that established and the fans basically ignored her anyway. Her scandal and removal caused the fandom to pay more attention to Kazuha, who trends pretty frequently for her visuals now.

Garam wasn't that relevant in the group, Sakura Chaewon and Kazuha are the most relevant members, so nah they will do better without her

Not after the scandal

I feel like Lesserafim is doing just fine without Garam. They even get better line distribution after Garam's departure.

I disagree for a new group.

People were just barely getting to know them, so I don't think there were as many heartbroken stans as there would be after they were stans for years.

Even (G)I-dle got their biggest hit after a member left.

(still not happy she left, but that's another discussion)

Garam barely promoted with them and during that time everyone was more focused on her scandal than the group's debut. Hybe did the right thing for terminating her contact, now everyone can refocus on music

I think they'll be fine

Eunchae shined the most since Garam’s departure also it’s not like she was the most skilled or charismatic, she would’ve let the group down with her if she stayed. Why would they keep the mosh hated idol atm? Lol LSRF isn’t the first and last to lose a member some smashed even more.