Groups whose overall skills don't fit their success?

  • Like groups who overall have weak skills but managed to become successful

    or on the contrary, groups whose success felt short compared to their skills.


    Example

    TXT

    vs

    Ateez- They are successful yes, but compared to their skills it seems to be way far behind.

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  • Success has never been about skills. And txt ain't that successful, they got surpassed by a rookie real fast.

  • Madonna

    Britney Spears

    Taylor Swift

    Rihanna

    Justin Bieber

    Ed Sheeran

    Harry Styles


    About groups :

    Maroon 5

    Coldplay

    Jonas Bros


    Us Uk pop and Kpop just work the same way


    But you guys can keep staying pressed


    Aight?

  • there is a reason why some groups are succesful no matter how much you want to discredit them lol star quality is a thing

  • Lol some of those names.


    Some are fine to be on the list, others (particularly early work of Coldplay and Maroon 5's debut album) shows you have no idea whatsoever.

  • Lol some of those names.


    Some are fine to be on the list, others (particularly early work of Coldplay and Maroon 5's debut album) shows you have no idea whatsoever.

    Read the title again plz

    They asked about skills overall, not just the ability to make great music

    And music taste is subjective. Skills are not. Agree?

  • I think Mamamoo's great.


    They are skilled, but their success don't reflect that or at least in their earlier years. IMO they are the only gg I would considered as monster rookies.

  • Black pink. For their success and popularity they are heavily destroyed in terms of group singing and dance. People bring up Twice lack of skill but at least Twice can sing better than BP and have significantly much tougher choreography.


  • Where is Nickelback?

  • Black pink. For their success and popularity they are heavily destroyed in terms of group singing and dance. People bring up Twice lack of skill but at least Twice can sing better than BP and have significantly much tougher choreography.

    Eh, no. We're not just comparing Jihyo with BP here but the whole groups, and BP definitely sing better than TWICE which you would know if you check out both groups lives. Which is also why BP aren't afraid to sing live like some TWICE members are.


    Once should stop trying to drag BP into each mess whenever they dislike seeing TWICE being criticized.

  • Read the title again plz

    They asked about skills overall, not just the ability to make great music

    And music taste is subjective. Skills are not. Agree?

    I'm not talking about musical taste, I am talking about skills.


    First of all, in those 2 examples, they played their own instruments. Secondly they wrote there own music, Thirdly those 2, at the beginning of their careers, were legitimate musicians - you clearly haven't heard some of the guitar work or drum work by either of them.


    Yes they pivoted to sleepy pop stuff that doesn't require much, but the fundamentals of their skill sets is there, at a much higher musician level then any of the kpop acts.


    The skillsets required to write, perform the early stuff in their career is higher then any of the kpop acts listed by a fair amount.


    The fact that you have no comprehension of this, and you even doubled down going "hur please read again" because I disagreed, just shows how absolute bereft you are of any musical understanding or comprehension.


    Going back to twitter writing about how your faves "slayed" because that's all you are good for.

  • txt (they aren't THAT popular, but it's still more for the skills they actually have)

    blackpink (for their popularity, they have shown very little skill as an actual artist)

    mamamoo (for how talented they are, they should be even more popular)

    Red Velvet (they are very popular, but they have some of the best & creative songs out there, they should be on the same level as bp & twice)

  • y'all will list all of the popular groups at this point :pepe-peek:

  • Lisa is the only one who excels at something in the group the rest are mediocre to untalented.

    She is hella overrated at dancing lol. If that's what excels means to you than you are easily impressed.

    Also, If the rest are mediocre to untalented :/ yikes to what you think of Lisa's singing, but then again you're easily impressed ^^

  • Skill wise in bp she's at the bottom with Jisoo. She can't sing and not the best rapper of the group. She can dance thou, i'll give her that ¬‿¬

    lmao not even a blink & i know this is bs

    jennie & rosé really aren't the powerhouses y'all like to paint them to be. Lisa's dancing is on par with people who do it for a living while jennie & rosé's skills aren't on par with real rappers/singers.


    jennie has very good stage presence when she isn't acting as if she doesn't want to be on stage, but her rapping and dancing isn't better than lisa

    rosé is one of the most consistent performers in the group together with lisa, but she only has her singing & lisa dances A LOT better than rosé sings...

  • It’s nice to see all the popular groups being listed here are succeeding whiles those mentioning them, their faves are flopping :wink:


  • The reading compression :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:


    Which sentence from my post comparing M5 and Coldplay skills with kpop groups??


    This is what i wrote :

    Us Uk pop and Kpop just work the same way

    Which means their skills are not better than other US UK groups that don't have the same level of fame


    There is a reason why this performance was one of the biggest flops

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    And this turned into Beyonce n Bruno own show. Poor Chris though. He such a nice guy. So we good? :finger-heart:


    https://m.youtube.com/results?sp=mAEA&search_query=coldplay+super+bowl

  • Theres no doubt about it, but that is not my question. Also txt might not be extremely successful but their skills still don't match the mid success they have.

    That's true, they'd be nugu if not for Bangtan clout.

  • Spica for kpop for sure. Many other vocal-focused kpop groups as well, hard fact is Mamamoo didn't completely get bug for singing skills alone, but from their personality and natural charisma as well as way better marketing. I say this as someone who likes both groups.

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