V leaves momentary images behind him—whether he’s singing, performing or just living his everyday life. As those images accumulate, his life is becoming a movie.
Necklaces by Marine Serre and S_S.IL, earring by S_S.IL, pants from stylist’s personal collection.
You made headlines because of your staged conversation with Olivia Rodrigo in the introduction of your performance of “Butter” at the Grammy Awards. I’m guessing a lot of people were asking what you two talked about. I’m sure it must have been difficult to really talk under the circumstances.V: I got asked about that a lot. I was honestly really nervous there because of the clothing choreography. A light whisper in her ear probably would have been enough in that situation, but I think I just said “blah blah blah” without saying anything real. Leading up to the moment, I thought I could just show it on my face or set the scene—and thought I didn’t have to say anything in particular—so I wasn’t saying anything special. Olivia Rodrigo knew that’s what I was doing, too. For a 10- or 15-second take, the performers don’t have to say anything special and can still make it look fun.
I understand that performance for the Grammys took place under various urgent, quickly evolving circumstances, so how did it end up that you would act with Olivia Rodrigo?
V: Ah, that was a suggestion from the people at the Grammys that was agreed to on the same day as the show. So I had no way of knowing who I would end up seated next to.
In a situation like that, you must have had to set everything up and capture the right feeling right away.
V: I kept thinking about the Now You See Me movies. The way the performance on the stage unfolded also reminded me of Jason Bourne, but for talking with Olivia Rodridgo, I thought it was really important to capture the feeling of the way they con people while talking to them in Now You See Me. I thought maybe I should just speak to her casually, and that it would be like magic if I could steal her card without her noticing while we’re talking, and how it would look if we locked eyes in a fun way. Things like that.
You had to act and throw the card before the song started, then go up on stage to do the performance. There must have been a lot you had to think about.
V: Yes. So if we had kept going with the conversation, I could have missed the timing on throwing the card. I was counting the beat in my head the whole time to keep track of when I should throw it. I kept going, One, two, three, four, in my head. And it was hard to know exactly what Olivia Rodrigo was saying since I had in-ears in both my ears at the time. Honestly, I was so nervous. I was so worried over doing the clothing choreography properly and it was all I could talk about before going on stage. We only had the day of and the day before to get it right before going up there all together, so I was more worried about that than anything else.
It's the kind of performance where, even if it goes well during practice, it won’t necessarily go well live.
V: Yes, exactly. I was really worried, so I was opposed to that part of the performance in the beginning. And it didn’t go well during the rehearsal, either, and we knew we should have been going on stage full of confidence, but we went up there feeling nervous, so I was afraid that we were going to mess up. We ended up deciding to do it anyway, but we did pull it off and the response was fantastic, so. (laughs)
There was a lot of pressure leading up to that performance. How did you feel once it was all over?
V: It’s finally over. (laughs) I should go watch the other artists’ performances and have a good time.That’s the only thing I was thinking.
And you talked about Lady Gaga on V LIVE.
V: I watch too many videos of Lady Gaga and Tony Bennett performing together. Tony Bennett is one of my favorite jazz musicians and I’m absolutely into the way Lady Gaga performs jazz. So I said I’m a huge fan, I really enjoy listening to your music and I truly believe you’re this generation’s jazz queen.
Are you even more into jazz lately? I know you’ve been listening to jazz ever since you were young, but I’m curious if there’s something that’s made you like it even more now than you used to.
V: If you like something for a long time, that feeling sort of intensifies, and whenever I like something, I end up doing something about it. I grew up listening to a lot of jazz, which I love, and I feel like it’s the style of music I want to do be doing now.
When I see what you post on Instagram, I feel like they have that old, jazzy vibe, whether it’s the video where you dance in a carefree way or the pictures that give a similar feeling.
V: I’ve always been that way—that’s just my individual style. I didn’t think it was necessary to post anything like that to the group account since it’s my personal style and my personal life. But I had no idea what to post once I ended up getting my own social media account (laughs) so I decided to just post things I like. I can show off my personal flair on that account. I don’t think I need to worry what other people think about it.
Do you have any criteria you follow for the photos or videos you post? They all share a very consistent feeling.
V: No, I just shoot whatever. I don’t have the ability to put my photos together in a nice way the way Hobi does, and I can’t express my own feelings consistently the way Namjoon does. I think it’s different every day—whether I’m feeling good that day, or if there’s something I want to upload. It all depends on who I am that day. Whatever I’m doing, it’s up to whoever I am that day to make the judgment call.
No wonder you like jazz. (laughs)
V: It’s very free-form. Nothing’s planned out. That’s what I love about it.
I still think there’s something special about how the photos feel, though. Even the selfies you took while you were getting your makeup done felt almost like they were from a photoshoot, for example—like you’re capturing a cool moment. I was also curious how you edit your selfies, with filters or otherwise, to achieve that look.
V: Filters? I don’t use filters. It’s just a regular old camera on a Galaxy—a Samsung phone. (laughs) And I don’t edit them, either. Because if I did, they wouldn’t be me anymore. I tend to leave the photos just as they are with an unpolished feel. I do adjust the color, though. When I want to make them black and white. That’s the one and only thing I use.
You have an absolute vibe. Even though you’re just taking the photos in the moment.
V: Yes. I don’t really put too much thought into it. I just keep ending up opening the camera and taking pictures whenever there’s a nice scene or something I can make look good. I just really like having my photo taken and taking photos as well.
What do you think about playing golf in that sense? It’s the kind of thing where there’s a lot of waiting between shots but with moments where it’s suddenly important that you concentrate.
V: I didn’t actually used to like golf. You have to wait a long time before you can hit the ball and everything depends on a single swing. To be honest, I’m the kind of person who improvises everything. I randomly saw this movie, with Shia LaBeouf, called The Greatest Game Ever Played. That movie was great. Watching that movie introduced me to the clothes, atmosphere and everything all at once, so I bought some golf shoes the next day. I tend to jump on things as soon as I’m hooked. I’m sure they were just saying it to be nice, but other people told me I’m good at it, and that got me excited. (laughs) And after I started playing, I noticed golf has its own unique atmosphere, which was really good.
Watching movies and finding inspiration from them seems to be part of who you are. As you mentioned a little bit earlier, you’re also influenced by movies when it comes to performing and can quickly express that in various ways.
V: Yes, that’s true. That’s movies for you. I thought I should think of a movie and borrow the concept and use it as a starting point for the stage. I want everyone to have their own interpretation when I put on a certain appearance. I love the freedom that allows one person to get one thing from what I do while someone else gets a different feeling. I find it interesting to see other people make different images of me in their imagination based on the way I express myself.