Off my chest: why do u guys hate on aespa

    i just have to get this off my chest because this is honestly so annoying. Aespa has proven themselves to be the leading 4th gen gg but you guys continue to discredit them and its annoying. Literally tomboy is being compared to next level. Tomboy is at the level that asap was at so I have no idea why you guys are doing this.


    And Ive? Their own fandom admits they're not very talented but you guys are saying they can dance better and rap betterand are better performers than aespa. It's funny how they've conveniently left out singing in their comparisons but then again, I think that's just proof of how big of a wall ningning and winter are. But to talk about the arguments, I hate how underrated Karinas dancing is. Shes so deserving of her main dancer role and if people just watched one of her covers they would see why. Shes kind of robotic but it's still super smooth and it works perfect for Aespas choreography. Personally I dont think giselle is a good rapper, I dont really like her flow and find her cringey sometimes but thats the same for the ive rappers but karina is an amazing rapper and it's sad how people discredit her in that too. Karina wants to write!! Its just SM that doesnt let her. But even though she doesnt write shes still a good rapper. Her actual voice is really nice both in singing and rapping and her parts in aespas songs are so good and she just looks cool doing do and it's sad that you guys discredit her. And then stage presence. I'm sorry but I've watched a few of ives stages and I have yet to see the amazing stage presence everyone brags about. I know aespa doesnt have amazing stage presence but that's because they're not allowed to sing live and they really brought it during Coachella. I feel like so many people didnt even watch their Coachella performance because they just mention viral parts of it like the dumb tiktok where no one cheered except that was already proven false but anyways people just constantly discredit aespa and it sucks because SM is barely releasing any content so we can't even show recent proof and even when we do bring up proof like their album sales and gaon points people always call us success stans like sorry aespa is successful and we can prove it? Like you discredit aespas talent and when we show u proof of them leading 4th gen, you dismiss us.


    I know when aespa comes back this whole tomboy is better than next level and ive is leading 4th gen will stop but its annoying waiting and seeing everyone make up stuff in the meantime.

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    It's to rile you because nobody hates Aespa but hates their fans with parasocial issues. Y'all proving it with these desperate anon threads about your faves that suddenly popped out of nowhere

    Because their fans are constantly setting them up on anons. At least you admited giselle is not a good rapper

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    It's to rile you because nobody hates Aespa but hates their fans with parasocial issues. Y'all proving it with these desperate anon threads about your faves that suddenly popped out of nowhere

    Lol let's act nobody attack them for their stage presence,not singing live,plastic etc.

    I don't hate them, I just don't listen to them since I don't liked their debut song

    NL is not that big as a whole song (SK+International), only 120m on spotify and only 200m on youtube? its not at the level of 3rd gen big hits, so of course other 4th gens are questioning it when bigger initial songs appears. Also stop acting as Aespa has a huge wall with 4th gen, going back to spotify their latest 2 tts are outstreamed by IVE and are not showing enough longevity in SK to be defined a NL level hit there

    I stopped reading at "Tomboy is at the level that asap was"

    You first point is already wrong.

    TomBoy is way bigger than ASAP and have more gaon digital point than Next Level.


    TomBoy:(Gaon)

    연도(year) 주차(week) 순위(rank) 가온지수(digital point) 누적(total)
    2022 12 2 20,377,338 20,377,338
    2022 13 1 34,362,366 54,739,704
    2022 14 1 33,497,701 88,237,405
    2022 15 2 34,534,994 122,772,399
    2022 16 2 32,548,429 155,320,828
    2022 17 4 29,998,679 185,319,507
    2022 18 3 26,830,056 212,149,563
    2022 19 5 27,739,779 239,889,342
    2022 20 5 26,984,071 266,873,413
    2022 21 3 27,241,781 294,115,194


    Next Level:

    연도 주차 순위 가온지수 누적
    2021 21 9 17,623,359 17,623,359
    2021 22 4 26,245,081 43,868,440
    2021 23 4 27,906,358 71,774,798
    2021 24 3 28,688,129 100,462,927
    2021 25 2 29,714,243 130,177,170
    2021 26 2 33,139,574 163,316,744
    2021 27 3 32,907,785 196,224,529
    2021 28 2 31,060,579 227,285,108
    2021 29 3 29,460,369 256,745,477
    2021 30 3 28,664,291 285,409,768


    ASAP:

    연도 주차 순위 가온지수 누적
    2021 16 108 4,365,480 4,365,480
    2021 17 88 5,678,120 10,043,600
    2021 18 48 8,170,257 18,213,857
    2021 19 31 9,815,946 28,029,803
    2021 20 20 11,549,043 39,578,846
    2021 21 15 13,687,685 53,266,531
    2021 22 12 17,259,629 70,526,160
    2021 23 10 18,557,702 89,083,862
    2021 24 9 18,494,693 107,578,555
    2021 25 9 18,695,448 126,274,003


    so I have no idea where you get the idea that TomBoy is at the level of ASAP. TomBoy is exactly at the same level as Next Level. At least right now, still need to see longevity.



    and for the talent part:

    Rapping: Both of them aren't standout so just come down to taste to who like it better.

    Vocal: Aespa win

    Dancing: I don't think Karina is underrated, but it just average to above average, while IVE is at average.


    Stage Presence:

    Well someone see it, someone don't and I don't give a fuck too.


    4th gens leader:

    It would be a lie to say IVE isn't a contender for 4th gens leader. IVE overall have more balanced number in digital, physical, international and domestic.?


    Also, based on your first point, you obviously didn't even check data like you only check Aespa, but not other group's number?


    TomBoy obviously was the same level as Next Level.

    and both Love Dive and Eleven have more longevity and number than Savage.


    to say why we hate on Aespa. We are not, but just annoying to see why MYs keep trying to make post vs IVE for no reason.

    bitter bitches don't worry when aespa next cb wipes the floor again they will go back into hiding.

    Anyway, I honestly don't care about who is more talented. I am only here for music.

    These days eerily similiar to those days before aespa releases Next Level

    I've seen this movie before and I like the ending :pepe-wink:

    Aespa has only one live performance with vocals and you think you can put down other groups that actually sing?


    Aespa half asses their dancing, they have no stage presence and they don't even sing live. There's just no effort outside of Ningning

    I meant in terms of impact. Tomboy is doing well because its competition is literally 2nd gen artists and Love Dive 💀 but in terms of impact everyone was signing next level, it propelled aespa to the top, and it literally made the presidential election.

    MYs like this fake narrative that aespa is hated when in fact the fandom is the one hated NOT Aespa.



    The fandom tend to boast about Aespa at the expense of dragging other girl groups and making up achievements.


    FYI. Based on stats alone, IVE is the most well balance group in terms of physicals and domestic PLUS global digitals (IVE is well ahead in bbgloba l 200, spotify, apple, bbhot 100 japan, etc.). Hence, no one really leads right now since we still have to see how Aespa will fair global digitals.

    What I’ve seen is Mys being very defensive and keep attacking IVE and LSRF and G-idle. If aespa is as big as you said, no need to downgrade the other groups

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    to say why we hate on Aespa. We are not, but just annoying to see why MYs keep trying to make post vs IVE for no reason.

    Is this happening on main? Because I didn't see it there (any more than other fight threads).


    And if this is happening on anon, then you shouldnt trust it, because it might very well be a fanwar bait setup by antis and non-Mys, to get people and other fandoms to hate and drag Aespa more. It's what I would do if I were an Aespa anti (or anti of any other group that I'd like to see dragged more by other kpop fans): just pretend to be a MY and create controversial bait and fanwar threads.

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