aespa is way bigger than gidle and ive and you guys are going to have to deal with it

idk why so many anon threads are posted trying to paint gidle and ive as 4th gen leaders when its obv aespa

atleast gidle has a hit song (nowhere near next level) and has also achieved a real time all kill (only aespa and gidle have done this for 4th gen), but ive doesnt even have that. i literally dont understand how ive is even in the conversation for 4th gen leaders when they can't touch aespa in anything except spotify streams which their fandom holds onto for their dear life evne though savage has 100M streams and is their third song to do so. except for their own fandom, literally no one even cares about ive. the entire group is hard carried by wonyoung and yujin. the funniest thing about wonyoung is that she's just a potential it girl but aespa also has potential it girls (karina and winter) and they rank higher in brand rankings. other than wonyoung and yujin, most people cant even name the other members of ive versus everyone knowing all 5 members of gidle and all 4 members of aespa.

then gidle vs aespa. in their entire career, tomboy is gidle's only hit. whereas aespa put out next level and then savage. and even their station song that everyone was so sure would fail did better than most of gidles title tracks. im not even going to compare album sales because the difference is laughable. next level has over 800k ul versus tomboys 400k. aespa literally beat bts, gidle can't even beat psy.

literally if you just compare the difference of what the 3 groups are capable of:

aespa performed at COACHELLA and the biggest thing ive has done was some kpop concert that no one's heard of and Gidle's biggest performance was one of their award show performances that aespa has done as well.

aespa has the most followers on QQ music of all of 4th gen

the fact that aespa are the only ones still charting AND ive and gidle are no where to be seen

i could go on and on but the truth is aespa is way bigger than ive and gidle and you guys need to stop pretending the competition is close.

oh after a few days of hybe's scandals, we're now back to the same old aepsa vs everyone threads?

it would be more credible if you didn't use Coachella lol we all know they weren't invited by the organizers of Coachella they were guests

only in south korea but ive is not too behind there and yes of course aespa will lead in physicals for now

also if aespa wants to be the real no.1 gg of their gen or solidify it, they also need to do good in international stats which imo ive is a bit ahead of them and even itzy me thinks.

I agree arepa number 1 4th gen gg

But tomboy is a lot closer to next level than u guys think, it got so many paks and I think even peaked with higher ul

And IVE is a lot closer to aespa in general than y’all think, they have better global numbers all around by far and aren’t THAT much behind in Korea tbh

Idk why some mys have an ego this big like I’m sorry but aespa is not solidified like say 2017 twice was…

If wy and yujin are hard carrying IVE then winter and Karina are hard carrying AESPA. Which isn’t true

lmao ive stats are better internationally except for youtube. please do not use the aespa at coachella card because they were not invited in the first place. sm desperately want them to be there thinking they'll have the bp effecf but no. aespa is ahead in korea, yes, but not by a large margin. ive and aespa stats in korea are closer than you think.

idk about idle so i cannot comment about that.

again half a year hiatus making fan go fighting everyone. Pls stop setting up aespa and let their next comeback tell them haters

You are deluding yourself by saying Ive isnt a threat for the 4th gen leader spot. They have the most well balanced stats out of 4th gen groups by far. You guys can't keep depending on Next Level stats forever and that's the main thing that prevents people from saying that Ive have surpassed them. For sales they are already catching up and both Eleven and Love Dive have the best charting in SK only behind NL and Tomboy. And of course, they are leading internationally by a large margin too. It's even more impressive when you realize they did that in only 5 months.

stop acting like savage was a big hit, the song was only carried by nl buzz, congrats for the pak but 2 months later was already out from melons top10, and now is living on top70, whatta hit, Gidle and Ive aren't that far, TOMBOY is almost big as NL, even had a bigger peak of uls, and both Love Dive and eleven showed more stability than Savage or DCT, btw you braggin about aespa have a station with good number and forget that a gidle's bside is a stable hit at this moment

IVE is from starship, they will fall behind once they start release bad charting song. You know they aren't going to have good charting like Love Dive and Eleven every time.

G-dle aren't going to chart well every comeback.

Aespa will have longevity because they are from big 3. It is only matter of time before Aespa hit big internationally.

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IVE is from starship, they will fall behind once they start release bad charting song. You know they aren't going to have good charting like Love Dive and Eleven every time.

G-dle aren't going to chart well every comeback.

Aespa will have longevity because they are from big 3. It is only matter of time before Aespa hit big internationally.

Do you genuinely think that when IVE come from the same company as Sistar than hold record for most consecutive #1s on kcharts (yes, more than SNSD) including their disbandment song?

It's funny even without adding the fact that IVE is also leading with a gap internationally and have sales on the same level as other top ggs from big4.

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Do you genuinely think that when IVE come from the same company as Sistar than hold record for most consecutive #1s on kcharts (yes, more than SNSD) including their disbandment song?

It's funny even without adding the fact that IVE is also leading with a gap internationally and have sales on the same level as other top ggs from big4.

That's just Sistar though? I dont see any of Starship's other groups doing that well. Ive isnt even leading internationally like you guys claim. You're joking if you think ive is anywhere near black pink and bts. and domestically, that's literally because of wonyoung. But it girls dont last forever and as soon as karina and winter reign over her, ive is going to become like stayc or gidle with only their own fans caring about them and only by luck having a few songs do well

Okay, if you say so, ig

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That's just Sistar though? I dont see any of Starship's other groups doing that well. Ive isnt even leading internationally like you guys claim. You're joking if you think ive is anywhere near black pink and bts. and domestically, that's literally because of wonyoung. But it girls dont last forever and as soon as karina and winter reign over her, ive is going to become like stayc or gidle with only their own fans caring about them and only by luck having a few songs do well

Why are you suddenly mentioning Blackpink and BTS? Lmao y'all always run to duck behind them everytime people start mentioning international stats. Obviously that person was talking about among 4th gen groups. But even then, IVE is still the closest 4th gen group just behind them.

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That's just Sistar though? I dont see any of Starship's other groups doing that well. Ive isnt even leading internationally like you guys claim. You're joking if you think ive is anywhere near black pink and bts. and domestically, that's literally because of wonyoung. But it girls dont last forever and as soon as karina and winter reign over her, ive is going to become like stayc or gidle with only their own fans caring about them and only by luck having a few songs do well

Don't play dumb, I was obviously talking about 4th gen specifically, its in the title of the thread. Doesnt matter if its just Sistar, if they did that once they can do it again and let's not act like Starship groups are nugu level. WJSN ranked above aespa on brand rankings last month, Monsta X that was the breadwinner before Ive keep outdoing themselves in sales and charts each cb and Cravity sells above 100k. Their solo artists like K.will and Mad Clown had good charting. All youre saying is just wishful thinking.

Can you clowns stop talking about Idle.

Idle fans (the non false flag versions) dont' really give a shit about your "waaah Aespa vs IVE" bullshit.

Of course Nevies are happy with their success and it's invigorating considering how much shit Idle get, but at the end of the day they're going to change sound and concept and Neverland know it'll be something fresh and different, but maybe not charting as well.

Idle's popularity in Korea is going to be fine, no matter what they do. Almost all of them are personally popular in Korea.

lmao, not a stan of neither of 3, but paks aren't an achievment, go for a while into the digital thread they would tell you that ain't a hit definers. Also IVE has 2 back to back hits, Aespa didn't have that, NL was the outliner for them, they peaked at 512k uls, not over 800k, Tomboy peaked at 516k and Love Dive peaked at 470k, but at least did more internationally than the former 2. Mys are a bunch of delusional if they think they have a huge wall with other 4th gens groups, internationally Itzy has more songs over 100m and less flops like Forever, and in SK, IVE and Gidle are doing better than their last title track, Eleven is ints way to surpass total digital points of Savage despite being released in deadtime december

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That's just Sistar though? I dont see any of Starship's other groups doing that well. Ive isnt even leading internationally like you guys claim. You're joking if you think ive is anywhere near black pink and bts. and domestically, that's literally because of wonyoung. But it girls dont last forever and as soon as karina and winter reign over her, ive is going to become like stayc or gidle with only their own fans caring about them and only by luck having a few songs do well

I can't take this seriously. This look like delulu fan just to want to them to feel happy with making this post.

Continue your delulu dream.

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IVE is from starship, they will fall behind once they start release bad charting song. You know they aren't going to have good charting like Love Dive and Eleven every time.

G-dle aren't going to chart well every comeback.

Aespa will have longevity because they are from big 3. It is only matter of time before Aespa hit big internationally.

Except that they have strong sales that Sistar can't relate.

IVE is already bigger than Sistar.

They have strong international and domestic charting numbers. They also have strong physical numbers.

They are very balanced unlike Aespa who only have Korea.