Do you prefer lesserafim as OT6 or OT5?

OT5, only bcoz the scandal has gotten so big that if hybe still keeps garam, other members will suffer along with her

I don't really have an opinion. I just think this is all messy.

Garam didn't even catch my attention in the group, so if it's there or not I don't mind.

But after the messy situation she shouldn't be in the group in the first place.

If garam is confirmed to be a bully and the victim did nothing wrong then obs Ot5, I don't want the other members dragged in this mess.

If garam is magically innocent somehow then ot6 cus I don't think it's fair for her to be kicked out if she truly is innocent, but I highly doubt she is innocent.

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OT5, only bcoz the scandal has gotten so big that if hybe still keeps garam, other members will suffer along with her

That's kind of where I'm at. In their debut song, she didn't really catch my attention either positively or negatively. And I loved Sakura from Produce days, so I'm sad for her that what should have been her big debut is being caught up in this messiness. Plus Chaewon is super captivating, and even though her rapping wasn't my cup of tea, a lot of people are really loving Kazuha. Then you have Yunjin who is a greater singer for the group and as five, Eunchae has been able to stand out a little bit finally.

At this point, with it being pretty undisputed that Garam at least did something that got her punished under level 5, I don't know why HYBE doesn't just cut their losses and protect the others.

She didn't even get my attention in any stage despite of the big push she was getting from company.

ot5.

I had nothing against Garam till all of this got revealed and i didnt think she brought the group down but neither did she particularly brought anything, and i tried to stay neutral for the longest time but it has really reached the point of no return for her. Even if things aren't as big as they seem to be the damage done is so bad (mostly because of hybe tbh) that keeping her would be detrimental to the group. There are 5 other girls there, 2 of them literally leaving careers they had been building for years, 2 girls who had been training for years and a minor who deserve to get protected as well.

ot6 with or without Garam

I thought garam fits well in lesserafim but now when I look at her all I can think about is her being a bully so atp ot5

After watching their 4-5 performances today, I think they performed better as a 6 member group. Their performance as 5 member group was very underwhelming. They might improve in the future. But I could see there was someone missing in the performance today. And Garam has done the chorus the better than everyone who has attempted it till now. So I guess I am OT6 for now.

PS : I don't stan the group. Neither do I think I will. So my opinion doesn't mean much since I am not their fan. It's just that I watched alot of their performances today so they are still fresh in my memory.

If she is guilty then drop her and find another trainee to add…I do think that for what she did, assuming she did, there should be a 2nd chance, but the world of kpop is unforgiving.

who is garam?

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I don't really have an opinion. I just think this is all messy.

agreed.

This is performance wise btw, not just if you like her or not

I think Garam's lines in Fearless cannot be performed by anyone else in the same way she did, her lines were perfect for her voice + vibe. Also noticed they do the beginning a little faster then before too

OT6 always for me

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This is OT5

Oops...someone already made this thread. Lemme change it up a little

Nvm this is un-uniqueable...Let me just get rid of it lmao

We need to let go