Posts by Yama-Chan

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No, it's wy

4th will end (or it's already over idk) so it's pretty much set in stone

U need that just br and your group to back that up, wy is t carries by Ive, she is her entity (who Korea never seem to leave alone)

Quote from minjufairy

Keep coping. Idrc

You've done a fine job proving how much you don't care about this topic.

So what part of Korea do you live in?

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"but that's only bc Ditto made them popular ofc that song performs well" or "but it didn't make them win SOTY"

We need to start up the AKP Edition of the Cope Olympics next year. There will be a helluva lot of coping when NJ sets more records in 2024

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This doesn't make me wrong, didn't Super Shy and ETA perform weaker than their previous stuff?

Now you're cooking something up.

No, they did not. Globally, Super Shy is NJ's best performing title track, spending the second most weeks on the Billboard Hot 100 behind only Cupid, and it is their most streamed title track on Spotify to date. It also spent 50 days at #1 on Melon, behind Ditto.

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It's interesting how people keep using Wonyoung against other 4th gen idols when her closest "competitor" when it comes to popularity is actually Yujin. At some point she was literally the idol with most cfs at the same time this year, 12 iirc. Most kpop stans have no idea who else is popular in Korea besides Wonyoung and it really shows.

How many CFs and brand deals did IVE have as a group this year? I'm genuinely curious. I barely track that kind of stuff with my favorite groups, let alone other groups.

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I was anticipating a long text from you akshually

I'm gifting out hit NJ threads on Christmas week only. I'll be on break until then, sorry.

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Do you guys just say anything on this site?

Well, yes. It's a forum. We can say anything, as long as it's not against the rules. That's the reason you're able to say something as silly as NewJeans having no individual presence in Korea.

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Going viral is literally how you can tell if someone is popular with the general public or just their fans.

Oh, is that how it is? We can't use any other wide array of criteria to figure out if someone is popular individually? The sole determining factor is virality? And your example for IU was a song that came out in 2020, when we're two weeks away from 2024.

Well, using your big brain logic, I guess IU just didn't have any individual presence in 2023.

By the way, how ironic is it that IU herself called NewJeans the biggest celebrities in Korea this year?

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The reality is you cant go anywhere without seeing Ahn Yujin and Jang Wonyoung. Those two are literally walls.

They are not "literally" walls. Walls can't sing and dance and perform on music shows. I do wish people would stop using that word so egregiously. Regardless, that's a completely irrelevant point. I never said IVE members weren't popular; I never even implied my stance on which idol has more individual popularity, because that is not the point of contention.

You need to show evidence of NewJeans having ZERO presence as individual idols, since that is what you said. Did you forget? No worries. I can jog your memory.

"None of the New Jeans members have any individual presence"

Which is hilarious, since your next statement contradicts that:

"despite all the gigs Hybe books for them"

So NewJeans members are snatching up every global ambassadorship for nearly every major brand, from Gucci to Louis Vuitton to McDonalds to Apple, with even the CEO of Apple personally shouting them out on twitter, with their ads all over Korea, but they don't have any individual presence.

You think these brands and their marketing and advertisement teams are just going to throw money and products at celebrities who have no popularity and presence with the public? That literally (that's how you use the word by the way) doesn't make any sense and is a complete logical fallacy.

By the way, those brands came to THEM, not the other way around.

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Outside of New Jeans, they're nothing.

If the members of NewJeans weren't members of NewJeans, they wouldn't be as popular. WOW. What an astounding and insightful revelation that I'm sure we have all been enlightened by. What a stellar closing remark.

If the members of the most popular girl group in Korea weren't members of the most popular girl group in Korea, they wouldn't be relevant? You don't say?

Fingers crossed your fourth post works out better than 1, 2, and 3 did.

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And why did you pick Minju

Couldn't help yourself, huh? We'll get through this together. It was just a Freudian slip.

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For once you're not the problem

You two can't be lumping me in with the pack here

I'm allowed to clapback when someone says something as stupid as NewJeans having no presence as individual members

I don't care about the Wonyoung stuff in the slightest. NewJeans isn't marketed in a way where one member will stand out heads and shoulders above the others in the first place.

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Look i hate WonYoung i find her one of the cringiest idols out there and something about her rubs me the wrong way but i can't deny she is extremly beautiful and that she is the most popular idol individually, Bunnies always love to point out how many thingd NewJeans achived in only one year? I think it's time to start pointing out how NewJeans managed to have the most annoying fans in only 1 year too

I know, brother. Making an "It Girl" thread and correcting people who make out of pocket comments about their favorite group is something I haven't seen in K-Pop communities until the rise of NewJeans and Bunnies.

You hate to see it

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and imagine someone LYING on here and then when someone calls them out for it, going straight to attacking someone for doing something you do everyday

Also did I see NewJeans was irrelevant or something? Nope. I acc like New Jeans.

I just said none of the members have any individual presence which is true. You're free to prove me wrong and show me something just one of them did that went viral. Not on a group stage or a variety show, something they did individually. Given all those solo gigs Hybe got for them, surely something must have gone viral.

I'll wait.

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I had modest hopes that your second post would be an improvement from your first one, after the tips I gave you, but those hopes were modest for a reason, I guess.

This topic is about who the biggest It Girl is right now, and I literally couldn't care less about that. Go off. Type enraged diatribes about how Wonyoung is an It Girl Wall until your fingers bleed. But there is a Grand Canyon sized gap between that argument and making the claim NewJeans have no presence as individual members.

In the first place, "going viral" is a very specious criteria to use, since there are plenty of idols in Korea with individual presence who haven't "gone viral" this year. Did IU go viral for anything in 2023? What about Taeyeon? Suzy? Your entire argument hinging on "tHeY nEeD tO gO vIrAl" is extremely shallow.

Moreover, do you even live in Korea? Are you Korean? Do you follow any popular Korean social media accounts? I always find it funny when people try to speak like they're the authority on the happenings in a country they don't even live in.

Did you know Minji had "individual presence" before she even became an idol?

She had a reputation large enough for two of the most well-known MCs in the country to have heard of her, and pretty much every big company tried to recruit her long before any of us even knew her as a member of NewJeans.

This is something that would be common knowledge if you actually lived in Korea, and an example of why I roll my eyes at "It Girl" dialogues and when people try to speak to what's "viral" or "trendy" in a country they don't even live in, without doing any proper research.

I can find random trendy and viral NewJeans moments all day, if I wanted to

But that would be even an bigger waste of time than my decision to respond to you in the first place.

When every member is a global ambassador for many of the biggest brands in the world and plastered everywhere across the world, not even just Korea, it is literally laughable to claim they have ZERO individual presence.

I hope your third post is better than the first two.

We actually already know what the videos are, if you watch the YT video I linked. I'm just shocked I'm only just finding out about their existence today.

To explain it for those who don't feel like watching that video, there are individual member postcards included with the OMG album, with a cute message from a NewJeans member written in response to a question on the postcard.

But there is also a QR code on each postcard. When you scan the code, it takes you to an unlisted video where the member talks about their written answer in more detail. These question topics range from winter and how they emphasize their individual charm in their songs to friendship and their hopes for 2023 (it was still 2022 when they recorded these)

The answers are insightful, heartwarming and sometimes hilariously real, like Hanni talking about how nobody likes Mondays and she wants to just stay in bed.

What a really creative way of bringing the fans closer to NewJeans.

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Yama-Chan you do know about the ban heeseo channel right?

That I do know about. Somehow these videos completely eluded me though. That probably has a lot to do with my not purchasing any physical albums

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I am SHOOK. Did AKP tokkis know about this already? Very, very few people have seen them, so I'm curious if any of you make up this small number.

Just when I think the creativity and attention to detail have reached their peak with NewJeans, I find out this piece of lore almost a full year after it was released. They did not have to do something like this at all, but it is just cool they went ahead and put in this level of effort anyway. It's another example of how NJ distinguishes themselves from the crowd so effectively.

I don't think a single member has even mentioned this in one of their Phoning streams, and I've seen/listened to 99% of them.

Now I'm wondering what other hidden lore NewJeans has tucked away somewhere for us to discover

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None of the New Jeans members have any individual presence despite all the gigs Hybe books for them and how much their fans try to make it seem like they do.

Imagine creating an account on AKP just to show you are the origin point for where extreme saltiness and intense bitterness converge.

Feel free to defend the dignity of Wonyoung all you want, but you lose all credibility the moment you claim the biggest celebrities in Korea today, NewJeans, don't have any presence individually.

If claiming Wonyoung isn't the #1 It Girl in Korea is delusional, then claiming NewJeans have no presence is the literal theater of the absurd.

I hope you'll do better on your second post here.

The controversy isn't the biggest group of 2023 getting comparable time to at least 3 other groups.

It's the fact people had to actually pay money if they wanted to watch something on public broadcast.

I was lucky to see all the performances I wanted to before the stream got taken down.

It saddens me that these sociopaths with keyboards and a desire to ruin others, because they're unhappy with themselves, continue to hold this kind of power over even veteran idols like Joy.

This always has been one of my most hated aspects of the K-Pop industry. I know Joy is too much of a sweetheart to clapback at these jobless haters, but a huge part of me wishes she had told them to eff off.

Crap like this is why the Hwasas and Huh Yunjins of the world make songs about body positivity and self expression.