Posts by Tatiana1820
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all members are essential in njz, but if i had to chose only one, i guess it would be hearin maybe?
because hanni and hyein are the voices and faces of the group.
minji the visual and a more unique tone. also both her and hyein set that deep nostalgic and y2k vibes to the group.
danielle another lead essential vocalist and potientially the member that could make njz brake through on a massive scale in the west.
hearin is the most beautiful but minji is already the visual. her face is the least y2k as well. but she is a major stan attractor and a members that glues eveyone well toghether. an unique visual and personality too and a very pretty voice. so njz value is really hightenend with her.
but the other members are more essentiel to the group identity vocally and visually i think.
but njz is truly njz as ot5 tho
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that's it. i was brave yama!
HEARIN I LOVE YOU
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this forum seems to be full of intps
and some infps...hmmm
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Actually I'm INFP now that I think about it
naaaaaa way
infp and logic doesn't add up, you spend most of your time dissecting and analysing some data; intp all through and through
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I got 100% introverted on the test
bro you even beat me
i thought i was the worst introvert in the world (after hearinie
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Yes
your Ti (introverted thinking) is so strong i was sure you had it
so ever thorough and detailed in your posts/arguments
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IDGF
i see
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S-E-X-Y
take the test
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I seem to consistently get INTP
nice avatar fellow introverted thinker
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Mine is INTJ aka the Architect (introverted, intuitive, thinker, judging)
INTJ's in one sentance:
'Thought constitutes the greatness of man. Man is a reed, the feeblest thing in nature, but he is a thinking reed.'
Blaise Pascal"People with the INTJ personality type (Architects) are intellectually curious individuals with a deep-seated thirst for knowledge. INTJs tend to value creative ingenuity, straightforward rationality, and self-improvement. They consistently work toward enhancing intellectual abilities and are often driven by an intense desire to master any and every topic that piques their interest."
What is yours? you can take the test here if you don't know: Personality Types | 16Personalities
I used to type people to, so maybe I could help you to find your type to
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It's honestly exhausting how you keep shifting all responsibility onto HYBE while completely ignoring personal accountability. Yes, HYBE has made decisions that affected LE SSERAFIM, but that does not excuse the people who actively chose to harass and degrade them. At the end of the day, no company is forcing anyone to send hate. Those actions belong to individuals, and they should be held responsible for them.
Your entire argument boils down to, "HYBE made people mad, so their response is justified." No, it's not. It’s one thing to dislike a company or its business decisions, but it's completely different when people direct that anger toward innocent idols who had no say in those decisions.
And let's be real—what you're saying about "divine justice" is incredibly messed up. You’re basically saying LE SSERAFIM deserved to be hated because of Bang Si-hyuk’s actions, which is just cruel. The girls are human beings, not chess pieces in some corporate revenge fantasy. They don’t deserve to be treated as collateral damage just because you don’t like their company.
At some point, you need to stop blaming everything on a single person and acknowledge that people make their own choices—including the choice to spread hate. If you claim to be against hatred, then stop justifying it when it happens to someone you don’t like.
again there is a difference betwen hated and disliked. it's not the same.
haters are wrong. they should calm down and if anything direct their hate to the deserving people.
personally, even their chella performances debacle i blamed it on hybe and not on the girls. they were just not ready, but bang was too greedy so who cares? well koreans definitly did.
again i never attacked the girls or justified any hate. i'm saying there is a root to all this mess, it started with him and sadly it will also end with him.
i don't think the girls have a future in hybe. i don't even think hybe has any future past bts.
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Can people stop fucking saying shit like this?!
No, actually HYBE is not "fully responsible" for the hate train.
Every. single. person. who hated on LE SSERAFIM is a human being. A human being that is perfectly and fully in control of their own actions and decisions. HYBE does not possess and control every single hater through the screen, forcing y'all to hate on LE SSERAFIM. If you spew hate toward a group that has done nothing wrong, that is YOUR fault, and yours only.
YOU decided to hate on innocent girls.
YOU decided to berate and degrade them until one of them literally became scared of going on stage and singing. SINGING! What's next?? You want them to hurt themselves for you to finally shut your mouths and simply focus on your own faves??
YOU ALL have caused significant mental and emotional damage to them, and YOU ALL need to take responsibility. I'm all for throwing HYBE under the bus but you should learn to hold yourself accountable, too as the decent human being you are supposed to be.
This is not something you can just blame HYBE for when its convenient for you. Take responsibility!
You can openly hate them and wish the worst on them but now you can't admit that YOU are literally the one being toxic?! Be for real.
but it's hybe's decisions who lead to that. over and over again.
they could even erase all the worst articles about them like did with bang, but he probably conveniently hides behind them. or keeps them up to use it as a mean to victimise the girls, even if they're hurt in the process even more. just to benefit his agenda.
also people are humans too, if they see their favorite gg being destroyed and trashed by another agency so another group can take their place, they gonna be mad.
they're gonna hate the b*astard who is behind that and will definitly not fall head over hills with the privileged group. they know how much this evil being is linked to this group, so they wanna hurt him by making them flop because specifically HE tried to sabotage and bury their beloved group just because he wasn't their producer.
honestly? all this ssera mess smells like divine justice. (im not talking about death threats or other abominations but on the public turning their back on them). just towards mhj and the girls. he probably even stole that chella invitation from njz and made the girls dance on the stage with another stolen LV deal from them. utterly EVIL.
don't do to others what you don't want to be done to you! period.
all actions have consequences.
also there is a difference between dislike/distaste and hate. i never agreed that hating anyone was ok?!!
obviously knetz got really nasty with them because they felt humiliated as koreans with their chella stage. it's like they were getting revenge on their brused ego by berating them nonstop. their reaction didn't help either. it's not ok but again, it only really happend because of bang's ego and greed. which is the ROOT of all this mess.
if anything were to happend to ANYONE, it's on him primarly.
i'm sorry but the person who was the most directly attacked in all this mess was mhj. for DAYS. she didn't do anything to deserve it. she just tried to protect her ips and her company. with the way the media treated her, everybody even the girls were scared that she might k*ll herself. hearin even directly called her to hear her voice because she was so scared. HYBE DID THAT.
anyway, i don't wanna continue talking about that anymore. maybe in a specific thread or smth. i don't think this is the place for it.
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Tati, please stop commenting on these threads if you have so many negative feelings associated with them. Just because you dislike them does not mean you have to drag the mood and everyone down with you. Go to a thread about your faves and let Le serrafim fans have a thread where they can talk about theirs.
i totally agree with you. i never intended for it to go on that long too.
the only reason i commented was because all this hybe/mhj-njz conflicts are too deeply interlinked. and i wanted to make it clear who are the main culprit of this poor girl's suffering.
because when i read something like that i can't stop thinking about how and why it happened, so maybe something can be done about it.
and all roads lead to HYBE. simple as that.
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The hate train LSF received is not all HYBE's fault. Those people knew HYBE was harming its groups and still decided to throw LSF off the cliff , those people are the ones to blame the most.
You cannot slap one in the face and hide the hand that did it. Or pull the trigger and then say it was someone else's order, so it's not directly your fault or as if you were bound to do so. Everyone is responsable for their own choices and attitudes. HYBE is the source of controversy and people should have protected the idols and by not doing so, they just threw LSF under the bus. People could've targeted HYBE itself, but LSF took most of the fault. No one is bound to trash anyone in order to defend another, it's always a choice. HYBE deserves direct backlash and not through its groups, not like that.
People have the right to criticize, but those comments weren't even 10% of what was going around. Most comments were cruel and disguised as constructive criticism, just over the top straight forward hate.
i disagree, and i already expainded why.
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We wouldn't be having this convoy if you didn't choose to go out of your way to click on every LSF thread to attack them. You don't need to like them at all. Just stop engaging with their content if you are just going to hold them and them alone accountable for actions they did not choose to commit.
i attacked hybe. period.
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You absolutely CAN help yourself not to equate the members of Le Sserafim with Bang, you choose not too. You'll see people on reddit bring up MHJ in every single story about NJZ no matter if the story mentioned or related to her in anyway just to hide their hate for those girls behind a more acceptable target, it's cowardly, transparant and evil and what you are doing is exactly the same.
weather i do or not is not even the issue. im just saying that's how it goes for many people and i can understand why they would.
and comparing bango to mhj is ridiculous. one is waging war on the whole industry and trying to kill, sabotage and steal innocent young girls carrier. and the other one is just trying to WORK. just WORK. and work in peace and fairness with the people she casted and trained.
and yes to me njz is 0T6. even the members agree.
and both of them were deeply linked to their groups. it's a fact.
in the end, bango wants ssera to dominate the world and benefit from directly destroying my favorite group. and im just NOT okay with that. it makes me extremely uncomfortable and angry.
angry at bang and hybe. but i also can't help but dislike this group/brand/project due to that. you can't force people to like anything.
actually i never attacked the members. honestly, i just used to listen to some of their songs but i never cared for that group. and except the whole bango/njz drama, i still don't.
if they left hybe and debuted somewhere else, i would forget them in a day.