no thank you we are good I actually think baemon is more vocal oriented sheesh/batter up is not all the songs they sing. They also do ballads or can sing r&b kind of songs. In fact, before their debut it was said they were more vocally centered like big mama
and Asa wrote her rap part in batter up if I'm not mistaken
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if their company is openly saying to the kmedia this is their official debut there aren't going against the rules
as I already said it batter up never treated as an official ( never promoted) + other reasons like ahyeon but people still want to hear it
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Bfr no one can really for sure know a song doing well or not. You’re saying this now because Batter Up didn’t do well in the end. If the actual debut did well or went viral 100% sure the company would call it their debut.
YG called batter up their debut at first but are now back tracking that this new one is their debut and you know why he did that. Same exact method with CL. How many times did CL debut lmao.
I don’t get why OP is calling out blinks, should be calling out YG the man.
I want to make this cleat I don't care if it flopped I actually always used that word when I talk about batter up. I don't care much about baemon's breaking records. But I always felt and even said back then batter never felt like a real debut song because of the way it was treated with no promos and it was never meant to have promos. anyways I'm tried of talking about this Oh I don't remember about cl lol
because apparently they were quoting that post from that baemon's fanbase about sheesh breaking bts debut record or something. I just found out about it today lol
this is so funny.. why are we comparing 2016 and 2024 international streams, its 8 years gap and A LOT is changing.. the fact is, ILLIT debut is not even anywhere near ITZY debut era so lets just stop there.
and the fact that none of the member are making noise unlike any other girl group for example ITZY with Ryujin and Yuna being the talk of the town, or when Blackpink where Jennie is already an it girl from the first day of BP debut, TWICE with Nayeon, or even Aespa (who failed to enter TOP 30 melon with their debut) Karina and Winter making buzz.
seems like people only tuning to ILLIT because of their trendy music and they're HYBE group.. No one can name any of the member, not even stan Twitter.
Not to mention, atleast we know BLACKPINK achieve all those PAKs and CAKs on Melon during their debut with their own impact and people are actually tuning in, unlike those Spotify stream who got a lot of company push.
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thank you that's the reason why they made that thread lol they always have to insert bp somewhere they live for the drama
to be fair G dile is an older group I know people don't want to hear it but they are late 3rd gen so it makes sense the public knows them longer and imo nj strenghts is their popularity as a group as a nj brand than individually.
And who decided that Pre- releases don’t qualify as debut?? A debut is literally your first public official song release. It doesn’t matter if it’s a pre-release, title track or whatever.
So those millions of YT ads YG bought for batter up, did you think they did it for charity????
I think you need to go back to school because you’re going through too many hoops to justify this blatant lie. You can’t go around calling batter up a debut, then backtrack and say it’s not a debut just because it flopped
and you need to read I literally linked you a post when their label made a statement saying he considers this to be the official debut.
I always said it flopped no matter if it was a debut or pre-release lmao. I was only trying to explain the logic of why some people think sheesh is the official debut
batter up t was treated as a pre-release they also didn't have promo and they consider this their debut since ahyeon is re-introduced to the groups. The mistake they made was never called it pre-release but imo it was treated like one
+ their newest statement whether we agree or not they are saying sheesh is their debut
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So what are the excuses and mental gymnastics people gonna come up with now?
tell that to YG lol I posted a link of a new article when he says this is their real debut it's not baemon stans besides the song wasn't even promoted it was never gonna be promoted in the first place. Like dreamer said baemon's case is very unique also ahyeon wasn't there