Posts by Epyon-556
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A thought just came to my mind and I can't stop thinking about it. Has there ever been a girl group whose biggest song isn't their breakout song but a late career song? It seems like the curve always peaks at the beginning, I can't think of anyone.
AOA debuted in 2012, their breakout song was Miniskirt in Januari 2014 but they peaked with Heart Attack in 2015.
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I feel like people began praising Chaeryeong's visuals a lot more during the "Sneakers" era. What changed during this time period?
What was the final outcome of those bullying accusations? It seems that there wasn't really a resolution as to what actually happened.
Return to black hair and had a pretty viral episode on the Youngji show.
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The multiple mentions of Yoona in the thread single handedly triggered me out of a month long hiatus.
Lol.
How are we defining "talent" here?
It seems to me the way "talented" is often employed in these sorts of arguments is either a very narrow framing that limits it solely to unabashed vocal prowess, or alternatively a weight on the scales activist euphemism for a certain type of diva stage persona.
Yoona is neither. She is not a stand out vocal. And she is not a CL style diva archetype that so many attribute multitudes of claimed depth to.
But... Yoona shines.....
She serves as an archetypal example of the pinnacle of what traditional idols as multi dimensional entertainment and role model figures can be.
Yoona sings beautifully within her range and on modest fare, with heart moving results, just see her string of releases in Mandarin like Red Bean or her Deoksugung Stonewall Walkway.
Her dancing is strong and a highlight of SNSD's performance line. See nearly their History of performance releases and stages.
Yoona is the quintessential kpop girl group center, anchoring the visual and performance vibe of Kpop's most storied girl group in SNSD.
Beyond mere performance talent, she excels at so many other touchstones of the multi dimensional idol as jack of all trades archetype that seem to be lost in these kinds of discussions.
She acts. Slowly building her talent from very modest ability to one that can hold her own in high profile dramas and movies, going on to a string of extremely successful movies like EXIT and dramas like King The Land. She's no Oscar winner, but I find she is perfectly suited for breezy romantic comedy and lighter fare. She shines in these roles.
She hosts. Leveraging her immense charm and likeable friendly personality to host countless awards and shows and other venues.
She models. Her radiant and deer like youthful beauty has allowed her to ascend to the heights of CF and product representation, making her one of Kpop's most successful product models.
Also, she possesses a rare quality of genuine genuine kindness and humility. A warmth of character that is out of style in today's edgy culture. Countless testimonials from understaff and anyone who has had the privilege of meeting or knowing her attest to her unassailable goodness. This may seem like "not a talent" but when combined with her immense work ethic and motivation in her career and endeavors, it combines to make her one of the very best examples of an idol as role model. She is someone you can look up to, admire, try to emulate and be more like.
In my opinion her multi faceted career, personal achievements, role as performer and singer, and as all around entertainment figure and role model, make her far from "least talented".
It's insulting in my eyes for her to be characterized as so.
In terms of what being an idol traditionally meant. Yoona is a rare find.
So which member should people be mentioning for SNSD instead?
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And in the suit in question the youtuber made 15 youtube shorts about LSF. This person was likewise unrelenting, regardless of Sakura admitting she is very lacking.
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Then maybe he should have kept Eunchae in school instead of working as an idol. She was taken into the group because she was a cute child, apparently the company took her into the group as a shield - she is still a child, we have children. The K-pop industry is for those 18+ years old, not children who would trade their childhood for reading all sorts of comments.
Yeah, Eunchae debuted far too young. That isn't a reason to send death threats, rape threats, sexual harrassment, spread unfounded rumors nor is anything else the girls did a valid reason for that. Le Sserafim didn't sing well enough for how soft the backtrack was on the youtube livestream. They didn't commit a crime.
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Didn't see Twice in London last September. It pretty much a choice between that and (G)I-DLE in Amsterdam and I got my family in Amsterdam so I felt I had to go with (G)I-DLE.
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Since we're talking about her friends, did anyone publicly supported her when the witch hunt was happening?
Yes, Yurim the friend from the OP had been defending Garam publicly since May when Garam was still an idol. There were others that weighed in the school graffiti stories but can't say for sure if any of them are real schoolmates, we just know Yurim is definitely genuine as Garam used her instagram to respond to fans after she left Hybe.
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that's literally what Hybe tried to say back then, that she was only trying to defend her friend. That was their exact line to try and keep her in the group. And they got called lying mediaplayers for it, so...
but sure, after she's kicked out, it now benefits kpop fans to use her against Hybe so now she gets to be a victim I guess? People's conduct regarding this girl and that whole scandal was so damn gross.
Their first statements when the issue arose said too much
Source Music denies school bullying rumors raised against LE SSERAFIM member Kim GaramHYBE Labels and Source Music have issued an official statement in response to school bullying rumors raised against LE SSERAFIM member Kim Garam.&am…www.allkpop.comFact is, Garam has a record for cyberbullying, her accuser does not.
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Even now I still have no clue if Garam was innocent or not. But either way, HYBE had to let go of her, her public opinion was in the trash.
Garam shared the full report herself basically the moment Hybe ended their contract with her.
School Violence Countermeasures Committee Result Notification
Case Number: 2018-3
We inform you of the measures taken in Articles 16 and 17 on the prevention and countermeasures of school violence.
Offender student: Kim Garam, 7th grade, class 3
Victim student: [Redacted]
Cause of action: At the end of April to May 2018, due to [Redacted]’s mistake (talking behind her back, uploading friend’s underwear photo, etc), Kim Garam called her out to nearby elementary schools twice in the presence of several people and cursed them out, even through group chats, Ask app, etc.
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Gonna have to agree with Hybe stans in the X reactions. Hybe fought as hard as they could to keep her. They fought stupidly but nevertheless.
