Posts by erighter
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That is definitely not how spotify playlists work. Playlist positions and longevity on each playlist is decided by how much a label pays to have their artist on the playlist, not by actual demand. It is similar to radio in that way. Spotify actually got recently exposed for populating some of their playlists with fake musicians owned by specific labels, effectively allowing certain labels to have complete control of some playlists and not allowing actual rising artists to enter.
Edit: found a thread that explains it pretty well
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We had this conversation a while ago but Butter falling from 1 to 7 further prooves how fandom driven this number 1 was and how good4u is actually a gp hit.
Deja Vu and Good 4 u have both been charting in the top 10 for 8+ weeks while Butter is dangerously close from falling out of top 10 only 2 weeks after PTD's release.
If a fandom manages to have more impact than the so called "gp", they deserve their success imo.
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It is, because my favs are also kpop idols.. It doesn't matter how big the other groups are, the rule of equality should be applied to everyone
No, that's not how it works. You are not Korean, therefore it is not your place to speak on matters that only concern South Korean citizens. On top of that, the South Korean government themselves believe that delaying their service is better for the wellbeing of the country.
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BTS is like an untouchable wall here lmao
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It's because Kpop is and always will be a niche market. Including BTS. Which isnt a bad thing, the US music market is huge, even a small 1-2 percent share is lucrative for Kpop labels.
BTS impacts charts because of the size and power of Army across the globe including the US, a fanbase whose $$$ have allowed Hybe to influence American charts by buying radio airplay and making deals for massive promotions on every media platform. When you're able to buy consistent radio airplay and have your faithful fans do whatever it takes to stream and particularly download (using remixes to help your numbers), you can dominate the charts the way they are structured. Without downloads, BTS would have gotten beat by Olivia who had like 4x the general public streaming numbers and equal radio airplay during debut.
But outside of the fanbase, other Kpop fans, and those under 25 or so who are hyper attuned to the most current pop music, nobody knows about them or Kpop in general. Maybe 1-2 percent of Americans would recognize BTS if they saw them on the streets, while truly popular Western acts like Mariah, MJ, Beyonce, Sheeran, Swift, Ariana, etc would be recognized by 5x-20x as many folks.
I mean, if you went on the streets of some rando city or town in the US and showed them a photo of five random Asian dudes in their 20s plus Jhope, how many would actually be able to recognize him as a BTS member? Or would know his name? It would be 1 in 1000 probably, part of that is the unfortunate racially tinged "all Asians look alike syndrome", part of that is because of BTS' true popularity among mainstream America.
But that begs the question, if they are selling more concert tickets, selling more music, and being streamed more globally, why is whether or not they can be recognized by random Americans in the streets relevant at all to them??
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The Beatles would have been broken up at this point.
They achieved a lot in their first 8 years though, and they would have been either about to break up or just recently broken up when they turned 10.
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Maybe it would be more fair to compare them to the top acts of all time when they were at the same point in their career, which would be 8 years.
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My point was idol music is very much dependent on the youth and good looks of its singers and performers. So I question the appeal of a 70+ yo BTS. In order to achieve a legendary status, I think you have to be able to convert new fans, even decades after your prime. How many 20yo youths of tomorrow are gonna be fans of Old Man BTS? That's what I'm curious about. It seems to me that acts like Queen, Jimi Hendrix, Bob Marley, Led Zeppelin and such have lost very little of their music relevancy (and not just because lots of them are dead lol) and that's why you can still find young people who listen to them.
The reason why they are bigger than any other kpop group is because they appeal to a much wider audience, like the acts you listed.
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1/ I never said "sing", I said "hum". Just like non-English speaking people in the entire world do with English language songs. Humming a melody doesn't require words.
2/ That is up for debate really. Guys like the Rolling Stones, they keep touring at 70+ years old, and people keep coming to see them play Satisfaction. How many people will go to see 70+ years old BTS perform Butter or Dynamite? That's what I wonder.
The problem with that is their korean songs really don't get much industry support at all in the U.S., the radio certainly won't play a korean song nearly as much as they would play an english song. Also, unless there is a mass study conducted in the U.S. about whether people can hum a BTS song, you can't say for certain whether lots of people can do it or not.
As for the second point, I don't really see why their audience would be impacted by age. They may not be able to do the same choreography, but they would still be able to sing or even play instruments. The majority of their fans are already adults anyway.
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The answer is yes. I find it odd that people in this thread are basing musical impact on whether or not people can sing their songs in the U.S., especially since the vast majority of their discography is in Korean. Obviously they aren't the absolute most successful of all time, but that's largely because they debuted very recently compared to the top acts ever (most of whom have been around for several decades). Give BTS 50 years and I do think they would be up there with acts like the Beatles or Michael Jackson globally. The heights they are reaching right now in terms of global success is one of the highest peaks of all time.
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dababy hasn't released any major hits this year
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Those are some numbers !! I want to see what their album streams are !!!
Hoping for an album this year
Considering how well their singles do, as well as how well BE did compared to mots7 despite having less than half the songs, I'm pretty sure their next album will shatter streaming records.
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If they put out another album, I think 8.5B is possible for this year
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then what is #2?
2-5 are supposed to be really close I think, so it could go either way. I'd guess the strongest contender would be either Stay (the song leading in streams), or g4u. Butter still has a chance at #2 tho.
