4th Gen Leader
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Did i just expose u? oopps.... stream the national hit to 1 billion points
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LOOL Ok I have to work to get back too. Anywhoo to conclude everything I've been saying, itzy were the only 4th gen group close enough to reaching a national hit with DD, I personally would not count gidle (but people still can if they want) aespa and stayc are catching up, aespa need to release an album, more 4th gen girl groups debuting this year such as, Lightsum,ygngg and hngg. I think a interesting question is who will get the first national hit of 4th gen girl groups
sorry your tactics didnt work on me (insulting to get back and intimidating a person to win a conversation
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aespa haven't even had 1 whole year omg you're so stupid, I don't know why I'm entertaining this
and nooooo everything I said was right, op even admitted it was a misunderstanding because the dates he presented were for recent dates not the whole duration of the MV releases 
if you want to quote with attitude make it make sense please, cause you're looking more stupid with each post
nothing more stupid than you are yesterday... when you can't simply understand youtube chart until OP gives up on explaining to you...
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Dalla Dalla was not a national hit, it's the closest in 4th gen, but it was not a national hit and Itzy has passed their second year therefore they'll be approaching their 3rd year, once you've passed a year you'll always be approaching the next? is common sense not common?
Also, do not even quote ads because jyp uses as much ads soooo your argument is silly. Dalla Dalla was before the reform charts, the old Melon chart isn't hard to chart, aespa has topped 2 and I'm pretty sure most 4th gen groups have placed 1 as well? melOn 24 hits is the chart to look at as it's not based on any MV views what so ever, so it's all general publics interest and what's popping in Korea.
Now for the last thing you said, I never said itzy had a small fanbase, so I don't know why you're quoting, I mean for a group approaching 3 years they should have a big fanbase. My point was itzy has had time, such as gidle, enough to increase over the years, but with that, they still have not been able to achieve a national hit (recently they broke into top10 on melOn, even faster than twice) but aespa has charted higher and by the looks of it stayc will also be passing that
So aespa is on their second year now? lol and for common sense i think u need that more since your having hard time understanding about youtube charts and ads yesterday.. 😂
and SM ads 24.9 in 5 days? that is less than to their so called 24hr record? well SM now is the king of ads i must say.
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4th gen debuted in 2018
and While 3rd gen already had some clear leader at the start of the gen, 4th gen seems to be much more competitive
at the start of 3rd gen Exo was the clear leader among BG and GG competition was between Gfriend and Twice
4th gen seems harder
For example
G-idle show great potential during their first two title, with Latata and Hann but their popularity took a big hit with Senorita who couldn't meet the expectations after this their focus was on Ifans and koreans kind of forget about them until they do Queendom who gave them a big exposure again among the GP and the release of Hwaa prove that they were more popular than ever, but their popularity seems to have take a hit after soojin controversy, and the members are already going into their own solo project after just 3 years.
Itzy seems like they were the big contestant for 4th leader after the big success of Dalla dalla, but icy made them lose hypes and since their big debut with Dalla dalla, none of their song could reach this level of success, they are for example struggling to enter top 10 since Melon reform , the GP attention on the group doesn't seem as strong than it was during their debut by looking at the chart but their fanbase seems to grow very quick, especially among Ifans considering that they chart pretty high on Spotify global 200, and their physical sales etc....
Aespa after some controversial and mixed reactions to their debut, their first Comeback seems to surprise everybody by breaking records on the chart for 4th gen GG, the real question is will they be able to maintain this type of success with every comeback , or it was just a one hit thing ? also the lack of Physical sales make it hard to determine clearly how strong is their fanbase but the fact that they were able to be the fastest GG to chart on spotify global 200 and that the fact that they are the 3rd GG behind BP and Twice to debut at #2 on itunes worlwide charts, make it seems like their fanbase seems pretty decent. But one of their biggest weakness might be their concept too, will they be able to make people like it, or people will easily get bored of this weird concept ?
Now the Darkhorse that nobody saw coming, StayC, they took everyone by surprise with their first debut album sales who almost reach 100K and the fact that their songs is almost a 2 months years old song and is still rising on the chart and outcharting song release more recently, they prove to everybody that they had a lot of potential and shouldn't be forget when talking about 4th gen leader
the real question is will they be able to build a stronger fanbase and also get more recognition among ifans to be become the uncontestable 4th gen leader ? and will BEP will be able with one of his song to help StayC reach the level of Success that Twice did with his song ?
How long do you think we need to wait to see a real 4th gen leader emerge among 4th gen GG ? and who do you think it might be ?
well itzy has shitty songs composed by jyp which korean fans hated the most but still manage to be on top 10? and that's onthe 4th gen leader.
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I'm going to keep this 100, gidle is out. I'm sorry it's true and it's not just because of the scandal, I think eventually they would recover, I mean knets have got over similar things before, but the fact they are already going solo and another group is going to debut from their company, it's literally another Cube CLC tragedy. It's very sad because they were the first 4th gen group to chart in top 10 and showed a lot of promise.
Itzy are probably in the lead, but now aespa has passed them in terms of digitals and match them with MV views, as black mamba is literally going to pass Not shy any day from now, I would say itzy situation is very similar to red velvets situation in the past. Red velvet were said to be the leading group of 3rd gen, especially as they already had that huge fandom before the other groups got to debut. RV debuted in 2014 and by ice cream cake era they were huge, only some time after twice and blackpink debuted, did people start to question red velvet as the leading group. I'm not saying itzy debuted too early, but now majority of 4th gen groups are coming now and itzy has already been around for almost 3 years and haven't actually had a national hit yet, so it is very questionable. It doesn't help that aespa and stayc and eventually more groups will be charting the same or higher now.
And the biggest change prior to 2020 and now is that views no longer effect charting anymore. Prior to this popular groups could chart really high as views played a part, but now (at least in melOn 24) it's no longer connected to MV views, so it's solely based on the general publics like of the song. I think this should have be done a long time ago, cause now everyone has equal chance, big companies and small companies, now going forward we will see what south Korea actually likes
do u even know how to count? itzy just celebrated their 2nd year.. and when we say national hit Dalla dalla says hello??? Just because aespa mvs has more mv views (because of 60 percent ads) that doesnt mean they surpassed itzy already. Itzy dance practice alone has 50m views and 1m likes they are the only groups along with BP has that record.
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but lypsincing amd autotunes are for free.
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Only a mad anti would call a group having the highest peak on melon 24hr hits for their generation "droplet" of success
stream next level so you can stop being so bitter about aespa success and no aespa fan was downplaying anyone but I'm sure you knew that just like pulling shit out of your ass 
Not even an inch of what Dalla dalla or wannabe has. lol
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JYP is going to be the mafia. I have a feeling he's going to appear on the MV.
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