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Didn't you read what I stated regarding US Charts? How is SVT going to sell and enter the chart if they don't even have a US Label like NCT to back them up for album distributions, which is very much needed for both groups since they don't have a big fanbase like BTS and BP in the US.
So, how are we going to compare who has, no doubt, have a bigger fanbase in the US? Based on NCT's charting on BB 200 and pure US album sales, and SVT's US touring numbers with bare minimum promotion? Which do you think is more important in determining that, touring numbers or album sales? We don't know, hence why NCT having a bigger fanbase, no doubt, in the US Market can't be proven.
idk if this have ever crossed your mind, but maybe they don't have a label because there is no demand for them in the us...
twice also dont have a label, i think, but they made it on bb 200
Display MoreWhat are those K-Pop boomers going to acknowledge when based on overall domestic and international achievements, SVT is still bigger than NCT. You just straight up diminished all of SVT's achievements! Not everything is about album sales. Why do you think EXO is still bigger than SVT even though they surpassed them in having the best selling album back in 2019? Not just because EXO is far ahead of SVT, but because EXO's achievements did not go anywhere, meaning there are still a lot of achievements that SVT would need to reach in order to be on equal-footing or surpass them.
NCT surpassed SVT in album sales, but that's it! The domestic charting you're referring to is when Make A Wish stayed for 3 days on Melon Daily, while HOME;RUN didn't even lasted for a day? How is that much big of a difference for you to come up with the conclusion that NCT have already surpassed SVT in terms of overall domestic digital performance? You diminished the fact that SVT is the 5th boy group on Melon Chart alone. And they did that with less album releases than NCT.
https://twitter.com/kpopboysch…/1364013833354768385?s=19
SVT doing the bare minimum in the US Market just sold out their North American tour. They were the third highest K-Pop group after TVXQ and BP announced last year who have sold more concert tickets outside Asia. Both SVT and NCT do not have a big fanbase in the US, we can clearly see that by the difference to what groups like BTS and BP have achieved in the US Market. Hence why do you realize that the reason why SVT can't enter the BB 200 like NCT 127 is because they aren't signed up with a US Label for album distributions, which is much needed if you don't have a big fanbase like BTS, BP, and EXO who have no problem in entering the charts without any US Label backing them up. SVT is reaching the same heights as NCT 127 in the US Market through their touring power while doing the bare minimum of promotion.
SVT in the JPN Market, ever since their JPN debut back in 2018, they were considered as an Indie group there because they aren't signed up with a JPN Label, they were only under Pledis Japan. SVT doesn't even have a much better album distribution like other groups, for example TXT, but they still managed to sell 400k+ for their 2nd Single. For an Indie group, they still managed to sold out their 8 Dome Tour dates, which was supposedly just 5 dates, but because of higher demand from fans, they added 3 more dates which also sold out at the end. SVT without even showcasing their full potential in the JPN Market because of the less opportunities given to them by their own company still managed to reach those achievements.
Domestic popularity? SVT being recognized and awarded last year by the SK Government with a Prime Minister's Commendation award joining big groups like EXO and SHINee already tells you that even if SVT and NCT are both unknown by the SK GP because of their digital performance, SVT is still more known for their input for their home county because of that honorable award given to them.
Spotify streams and YT views? SVT aren't far off in YT views compared to NCT, especially when Pledis only started giving them YT ads for promotion last year during Left and Right era and they don't even get that much ads compared to NCT. Very impressive for SVT for still racking up those big streams on Spotify when their core fandom is from East Asia, where Spotify isn't even widely used compared to the West.
Even with all those achievements by SVT, especially in touring capability, still haven't reached by NCT, yet you already came up with the conclusion that NCT is now bigger than SVT because of album sales alone? Why do you think those so-called 'K-Pop boomers' can't acknowledged that NCT is now above SVT? Kindly don't diminish SVT's achievements that they have reached for the past 6 years while being held down and not even showcasing their full potential because of their own company's lack of resources, money, and connections. Imagine the heights that SVT could reach more if only Pledis have given them much better opportunities, but they still managed to be the 3rd biggest boy group in their generation after BTS and EXO.
These tour numbers are from 2018-2019, and NCT skyrocket in 2020, wait when covid is over...
About the US, NCT fanbase is bigger, no doubt, Neo Zone is even in the top 10 of us best selling pure album sales for 2020...
and they still managed to sell 200k in Japan...
This is a whole lotta troll, but just a note of clarification on Seventeen’s sales. I think there’s some confusion on the group vs a specific album. While Seventeen did not have one album that sold over 2m copies, its total for the year did sell 2.1M copies. Seventeen had two albums that placed 3rd and 4th on Hanteo. The total of the 2 albums is 2.1 million. Similarly, NCT had 1.45M if you combine Resonance 1 and 2. (I’m not counting the subunits here..)
On Gaon, Seventeen had 2.5M between its two albums (which were #3 and #6). It’s top selling album had 1.37M. For NCT, it had 2M between the two Resonance albums. The top seller was 1.28M.
2.8M actually
RESONANCE PT.1 sold 1.5M+
combining sales? Gaon doesn't follow that type of inflation. But it's impressive how much nct improved from before sure.
Where did I say a bg with 1M sales won't tour well?
Well there r different kind of fans. A fan who streams without buying album can also come to their faves tour.
A top level group has everything from sales to tours to digitals and streams.
of course a million seller bg will tour well, what i’m trying to say here is that a bg that sells 400k will also tour well.
take as an example Twice and Got7...
And btw dont care about gaon or whatever, im just saying how much resonance sold.
If a girl group is selling 400k they'll tour extremely well. Simple.
And no bg except bts has sold 2.8M with an album yet and they r next level in digitals and streams.
Bgs tend to have fandoms to sell things but these days there r ggs that can do that.
if a gg that is selling 400k will tour well, then a bg that sells this much will also, casuals listeners dont matter when it comes to touring.
And NCT Resonance's P1 & p2(Repack) combined sold 2.8m copies
the way people consider successful a gg that has good digitals and sells 400k in physicals, but considers a flop an bg that has "bad digitals" (even if they are #2 or #3 among Bgs rn) but manages to sell 2.8M with an album. lol
boy groups objectively make more money than girl groups and thats why companies tend to focus more on them...
Predicting 10M+ This Year
They are finally getting the recognition they deserve...
That's a 8x growth
well, this is really bad, doesn't matter if happened years ago... if this is true, she is mean AF
when im listening to pop music, i just want to vibe
if i wanted to have a philosophical experience it would be better to read a book...
