china sales are counted in ifpi. now kpoppies can't use the excuse that china sales are not counted anymore.
To no one's surprise tbh. Their figures are there for all to see, its not even private. Any organisation can simply just look up figures from their websites
And IFPI also shows that Chinese sales can carry groups if the group sells enough there. Blackpink's album made it to 5th with literally half physicals half digital downloads.
thanks. makes sense because i doubt their companies wouldn't report sales when they are huge this year. digitals just didn't cut it.
I still thought SVT would at least be in top 10 maybe 10th or smth. Prob does prove that those chinese downloads are no joke and do carry some weight with them. Maybe the cut off for top 10 was close to SVT's numbers
First female korean act as well, what a milestone for kpop female acts.
Possible yeah. Blackpink's album didnt win them in physical sales but it has 1.4M chinese downloads and its 5th
The list seems fine, we'll have to wait a while b4 we can see how LSG compares to HYLT. For now it is definitely lower than HYLT esp with the total gaon points with the same weeks past.
Imo there isnt really much difference from 5-9.
Dolphin's status is elevated bc it is a bside. But if it and Nonstop continue doing well maybe they will be where they are now on the list and maybe nonstop will be even higher than Hip.
Dalla Dalla had the greatest gaon digitals because it did consistently well during its first 20weeks despite not peaking too high, so u could say it didnt have the longetivity but did have the start. Altho 2019 gaon digitals surely helped, none of the 2020 songs were afforded the ability to stay stable in its first 20 weeks due to COVID, the biggest losers in that aspect being On, Psycho, HYLT and LSG, so they couldnt really gain more digital points from the start and was already at a disadvantage bc of it. I think its fair to say that DD and Psycho are of the same level despite the 100M+ gaon points difference
The one that sold well in China last year for Taylor Swift was folklore, which was an album not a single, so no, she didnt really do that well in China/ even release a single to be sold separately(?)
My opinion is that they wont be debuting anytime soon. Its YG after all
Let's be real, 250mil digital points hardly pass as a 'hit'.
Not in 2018/19 definitely. Probably nt in 2020 as well but it kind of makes 4th gen group's look sad. If u have a strict enough cutoff for digital points dalla dalla would be the only 4th gen hit out of all the 4th gen grps so far
Dumdi Dumdi charted for 20 weeks right?
Yeah. Its like G-idle's 2nd longest charting song
Display MoreWeek 9, 2021
I Can't Stop Me - 36 (passes Icy)
Dingga - 48
Savage Love (BTS Remix) - 79 (passes Kill this Love)
Life Goes On - 120
Don't Touch Me - 177 (passes You're The Best)
Lovesick Girls - 199
Nonstop - 203 (ties w/ Power Up)
Dolphin - 216 (ties w/ My Type)
ON - 250 (passes Blood Sweat & Tears) [enters Big/Huge Hits category]
How You Like That - 402 (enters the National Hits category)
Boy with Luv - 634
Dynamite - 708
Spring Day - 869
HYLT rn:🔥🔥🔥
My generation ppl only know Little Mix and Bp. I mean I have heard of the other group's names been thrown ard but have never actually heard one of their songs.
Between Little Mix and Blackpink though, its pretty clear Blackpink is bigger already, even in the west Blackpink doesnt lose to Little Mix even in numbers except for certain european countries
yea probably 250m
Gaon digital points are so sad now. It will probably end up ard the points of dumdi dumdi. Which people in fact thought of as a hit. Altho ppl will always have different standards for Twice and Bp.
Exactly. Don’t tell me you think streaming began with Apple Music and Spotify??? There was already free music videos being released on YouTube with some other phones coming with their own customized music player. The internet along with google was getting bigger and people could start downloading songs from online instead of buying physicals to listen to them.
So my point still holds. Streaming only got a big boost due to the growth and popularity boom in technology.
Are you sure they count concert revenues towards music market??? That’s new. I didn’t know that
Live music ticket sales is part of music industry yep.
I agree with the technology growth part though
man, u are delusional.. so many ppl explaining but u still dont get it, i give up
Damn u really had to go there.
just so u know, u guys are the one trying to disprove a fact which is streaming revenue is 9x more than physicals in the biggest music market in the world
By saying that streams dont earn as much bc they dont pay as much? Spotify itself pays almost 70 percent of its revenue to artists. So where did the rest of the money go?
No offense but the only reason why the music market is just getting bigger is because of the increasing population and the fact that more people are getting easy access to music due to the normalization of technology in every parts of the world. It was bound to happen unless something unimaginable befell the music market
One of the reasons, Im sure it is.
physicals has been dropping since the early 2010s tho?
And if the growth of streaming can outgrow physicals, what does that really tell us.
Keep in mind 2020 doesnt even have concert revenues to make it worst
see how little streaming platform pay to artist -.-
I know pay per stream is that amt. But its the raw amount. The real amount is way more complicated than that.
The analogy is this. What we are calculating on albums is basically the shipped and printed albums u paid multiplied by the amt sold.
It might seem a lot compared to streams. But we are forgetting everything that cost money along the way from making, printing, deliverying the album.
The manufacturing cost of a physical album is way higher than a digital one. So the actual profit is way less than its raw value
There r American artists who can still sell pure copies. There is no denying that the streaming era has decreased the sales. Smash albums aren't able to reach or will take more time to get diamond certification.
But artists who can get streams do generate good revenue. The world has moved on to streaming. It's the future pretty much. I'll never understand why kpop fans r kinda against it. Lol
I can see why some kpop fans are against it. They spend way more effort and money to support their artist.
However, it must be said that only a small amt of people support their kpop artist by paying for merch. Most people cant do it and its not that they do not want, they are just not capable to do so.
Instead they spend time and effort to support their artist by streaming their songs in this day and age. Which doesnt make them less of a fan
Where did you get this info from? The only thing I can find is that the Spotify payout formula per song is: <Total Revenue> * <Song Streams> / <Total Spotify Streams>. I.e., you are payed the ratio you contributed to the total Spotify streams. And, just to clarify, it is calculated per country. So each country has its own pay per stream based on the total revenue and total streams of the said country.
Many youtubers have shared how they actually earn money. U can google ads payout if u want for yt, im not sure abt spotify but spotify without premium does have ads as well im sure that plays apart somehow as ads are a main part of streaming platforms
Display MoreIt doesn't really matter if the bulk of BTS sales are from Asia.
It matters how much they make from digitals compared to streaming in the US. I read it's over half a million CDs sold. Let's round it down to 500k and say it's 25 dollars for a CD, then it's 12.5 million dollar just from physicals. They will need a lot of streams to make the same amount. So, at least for BTS, physicals make a large part of their revenue. Same for the others, likely. They might sell fewer physicals than BTS, but will also have fewer streams to set it off against.
2000 is 21 years ago. Is that corrected for inflation?
(900 million is amount of albums shipped, not the amount of dollars)
12.5million dollars compared to the revenue BTS makes is actually peanuts. Not even taking into account the production and shipping cost of the album. U can google this one up i think on their profits idk if bighit shares it or not.
All chartdata said was that the revenue is at its highest in a decade. With so less concerts last year. I'd say its proof enough how strong streaming actually is
