This sound so ridiculous wthell
well to be fair its suppose to help you eat less not eat nothing
This sound so ridiculous wthell
well to be fair its suppose to help you eat less not eat nothing
as some people have already said it happens everywhere even on akp id say fans especially have confirmation bias in the opposite direction of everything you said
1. that they reject plagiarism before even hearing the song and believe people are overreacting
2. believe idols are innocent no matter the evidence or accusations...some people still think garam was innocent or that she shouldnt have been kicked from the group
3. Originally with the Min person she had a lot of support and people claiming that it was just jealous stans kicking up baseless rumors out of jealously
if her heart is in acting, good for peldis to let her go.
I'm all in for letting idols break contract if that's what they wish
she didnt break contract and peldis didnt let her go
when they transferred over to peldis the 8 other members signed a new contract with peldis and she stayed under the old contract with OTR (they changed the name forget what they are called now) but just promoted with them
Wait wasn't she on Produce 48? Is this the same girl or am I thinking of someone else?
yes she was
i blame hybe
pretty sure it had more to do with hybe wanting her to limit her solo activities than her not wanting to be an idol or not getting along with members
wasnt there literally this same exact thread created today but the opposite saying people loved them at first but than started hating them when they broke their faves record lmao
main reason is females idols are held to a higher standard than males and this is done by both male and females.
Females idols are expected to look like goddesses while also expected to not set impossible standards to make other girls feel insecure
learned today a childhood friend i lost contact with killed themselves and honestly idk life is crazy
“ kpop fans love to act like stage presence is this great skills that every group need to have or they can't succeed without it ”
This is straight up false. People praise idols who have good stage presence but no one ever claimed that it’s an essential skill to have and idols can’t succeed without it. Some people might be petty that their “more talented” faves aren’t as successful, or maybe they just want to drag idols they don’t like, but no one made it seem like stage presence is everything a group needs. Stop making stuff up just to have sth to bitch about lol
to be fair there was a thread not long ago saying a group could not succeed in the west without stage presence and it seemed a lot of people shared this belief
Display MoreAnd I explained how the song making process is done in SM
They pick the demos they like, they will work with composers to twick it to their taste.
And if they don't like anything, they have access to sm songwriting camp to get fresh new samples and demos.
How can they possibly end up with songs everyone hates?
If you want to believe that sm will allow artist to reject title songs options and postpone a comeback while they search for more thats you not for a second do i think any group has that kind of power unless they are some super senior
there are many fans who do believe that and that's why when the groups do sth they fall into a spiral of blame game.
Then again my examples were very specific..
If an idol boasts about being a lyricist, does it make sense for fans to blame others for plagiarized or problematic lyrics?
yes if they produced or wrote the lyrics no if they didnt
I can only give examples of how things works in SM bc that's were my favs are
When shawols and exols here are telling you they pick their own songs, it's fucking bizarre that people claim a group like snsd has 0 control over their music
And as i said its generally done by voting on like 2 or 4 different songs that are already made and not actually having creative control during a song process. These are two different things. Just because they make a decision doesnt mean they actually like either.
Display MoreTo me this is how Bibi scenario will play out
Either she is in full control of her art and actions and she messed up with that method acting
Or she is not the full hand on artist her fans claimed and she is controlled by her company
The impossible scenario that I'm protesting against is when fans claim someone is in full control of their career, but then blame the company for mishaps
Who says this? Like really who claims their artist is in full control of their career? BTS probably has the most say in what they do as an artist and i dont even think army believes they a full control especially not early on.
Display MoreSm is considered the company that restrict artists freedom by kpop fans, so they can be set as the bench mark
As for your second part, yes
They have a catalog of demos, their artists listen to the demos and pick what they like to be in their album. They work with other composers to twig those songs. After the songs are completed, they will vote for the title.
For title selection sometimes some member won't get what they like. Taemin didn't want view as title track but it was 4v1
LSM and his staff choose rise as the title, Taemin picked move and they went with Move as title.
Remember when LSM said BoA didn't like any of the songs in their catalog and he hired a whole team of composers to do just what she wants?
Bad love wasnt part of SM catalog, it was written for Key alone bc he wanted that type of song. Kenzie even watched his variety shows to tailor the song exactly to what he wants.
I can go on and on with examples
notice how you switched to solo artist everyone knows solo artist have more freedom and i disagree that any big 4 company is the benchmark for idols because any huge label has infinite more control than smaller ones
well i agree that people over use fashion icon and musical genius most idols have minimum input on music put out and clothes they wear especially early on if it exist at all
What i find funny is that bibi really just went live on ig saying shes starving and they wont let her eat or sleep than the company with s statement saying thats not true. Everyone thinks the company is lying or covering it up.
So i'll throw the question back at you how much control do you really think idols have?
whats the point of talking about ONLY sm lol
And even in sm this is a joke comment
Do you think sm artist have ultimate say where they can go out decide the concept, style, lyricist, and producer or are they given an option between 3 songs to vote on.
Well it depends
if every member hated it then it would have been scrapped.
In groups it's democracy and the members vote
so you think a company would scrap a comeback if all members rejected a title track you gotta be joking lmao