Posts by prodigy210

  • ADOR - HYBE Mega Thread || Summary on page 1

    Quote from Epyon-556

    I rather dislike them being brought up altogether. Minji and Hanni appeared in BTS' Permission MV. They may have less of an image of BTS' dongseang group then TXT, but they still have it and benefitted from it. You don't want to create the perception that they are the ones feuding with Hybe and 'had no intention of allowing anyone to promote themselves using phrases like ‘NewJeans’ dongsaeng group'. They have to perform at festivals and awards show in front of crowds that are 90% Armies again one day. That's how you get black oceans.

    Yes someone else had a similar opinion as yours which is fair i understand this position not the others.

  • ADOR - HYBE Mega Thread || Summary on page 1

    “Black Propaganda” — Min Hee Jin Claims That HYBE Is “Trying To Destroy Her” Using Media Play

    She claims they want to turn the public against her.


    NEWS

    Jasmine Turner

    Jasmine Turner

    17 minutes ago

    On April 26, 2024, ADOR CEO Min Hee Jin recently gave an interview as a follow-up to her press conference the day before. In the interview, she delves deeper into why she believes HYBE is hosting a media play war against her.


    Min Hee Jin claims that HYBE is trying to set up a ”black propaganda“ against her, to convince the public that she is simply out for money.


    Reporter: So you‘re saying this is black propaganda?

    Min Hee Jin: Yeah, so what’s so “black propaganda” about this is that they tried to make me into someone who‘s just greedy for money. “That’s why she wanted to usurp power. But she‘s also someone who’s egoistic.“ The public already has some biases against me. If I just say something with confidence, then they will say that I‘m weirdly super self-conscious. That I’m egositical, I have too much confidence in myself, but that‘s honestly just how I’m used to speaking. They really just churned out all the types of [accusations] that antis who don‘t like me will eat up.

    Reporter: In the media?

    Min Hee Jin: Yes. Then the next thing they do is make me into someone who has character issues. Then, someone who’s personality is problematic. Then, they try to create a frame that I‘m picking at bones, going with these angles. It’s so cruel how they‘re churning these out one by one.

  • ADOR - HYBE Mega Thread || Summary on page 1

    I dont ses the article for radio translation in op can you link it. And yes imagination correct me if I'm wrong it sounded like you said you made those comments not off anything she said publicly but what she COULD be saying privately.


    And my point is since you seem to have an extremely negative view of mhj while you don't of bang pd I highly doubt you would have made that comment about him.

  • ADOR - HYBE Mega Thread || Summary on page 1

    Quote from TwiceKaren

    But Bang and NJ have no relationship, why would anyone thing they are co dependent when they aren't close, we know MHJ is extremly close to NJ not just at a professional but personal level so i don't understand the comparission with Bang PD, but i can assure you if Bang PD for whatever reason said the girls kept him from killing himself a lot of people would have issue with it even if it made 0 sense since they have no close relationship in the way MHJ does

    The meaning of the comparison is exactly what you said. The problem at the end of the day has nothing to do with what mhj actaully said but what it could mean. Just like you have no clue if bang pd have a personal relationship with new jeans you have no clue what mhj and new jeans relationship looks like either except for little bits. People are trying to twist every little word and action by mhj based on what ever image they have of her in their head.

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    Quote from TwiceKaren

    Idk man get me a good translation because what i understand of the situation is she explicitly told the girls how she was feeling and their support save her and like you said since MHJ is talking publicly about it even if she didn't outright tell them they will still find out and find out she thinks she is alive because of them and their support which is pretty abusive even if you refuse to see it, idk how old are you or what life experience you have had but someone telling you they are alive because of you is not a good thing and it is something that a lot of people use to make people stay and not leave them


    I also switched topics because i wanted to give you my point of view on this matter you were discussing with Ves because i already said everything i had to say about why i think MHJ bringing the girls into the spotlight it might end up affecting them

    Bring me the translation you used because i am fine with that i haven't seen one that said anything different from what I said.


    Also it's completely diffent once again she did not go seeking them they came to her. She did not dump her drama on them they just offered simple words of encouragement that made her feel better. You can twist anything into being manipulated once again as I said before I feel people are looking at this as negatively as possible simply because they hate mhj.

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    Quote from Ves

    I don't have an issue with the girls crying, I have an issue with how MHJ chooses to describe it. If she feels free to tell the public about these private moments, what is she telling the girls and their parents? How is she framing it? This relationship I alluded to earlier involved immense guilt - feeling like I had to be holding this person up above water. If I wasn't there when they needed me or if I said the wrong thing or reacted the wrong way... It's a lot of responsibility, one they should not have to shoulder.


    Anyway, I explained myself already here:

    So your not using any publicy know comments to make that statement but basically your imagination. Now ima go out on a limb and say you have an extremely negative view of mhj. So you dont see how thats problematic?


    This is why I asked what you would say if these statements were coming from hybe I truly doubt you would have said bang pd and new jeans have an unhealthy co-dependence relationship filled with guilt.

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    Quote from TwiceKaren

    Because it is weird that a 40+ person is relaying on young girls about all the mental breakdowns she seem to be having, obviously there is nothing wrong with people supporting people they care about and yes some people have said that not everyone is the same and maybe the members are ok with supporting MHJ like that but at the end of the day someone who has lived more than double the time the girls have shouldn't be dropping all those issues on them


    It might sound dumb and idk if it happened to you but at least when my parents had issues that would actually stress them out like debts or we were short on money they would do the best they could to "protect" me from it, like sometimes we were short on money were we couldn't afford enough food and they would pretend not to be as hungry just to leave food for me and my sibilings, when you are yound you don't really see it or understand it, you just notice once you have grown up more and have more life experience


    My point is i think a father figure like MHJ says she is should be trying to protect them from all this stress and remain strong for them but instead she is dragging them down, we can see and i think most of us can agree MHJ is going throught some dark experiences dealing with stress, depression like she said and other bad things in her life, so she shouldn't be dumping all that at the girls looking for support and telling someone you are alive because of them can be pretty mentally damaging to the person specially teenager, you now feel is your duty or burden to care for someone and keep them "alive"

    Where is mhj relying on new jeans members for break downs, what issues is she dropping on them? When did she go looking for them for support?


    They called her and wished her well. One member asked if she could come over mhj refused. Another member asked if she wanted her to go live and voice support she turned that down.


    This is all going on in public its impossible to shield new jeans from this reality they know it's going on. Now it also sounds like your conflacting our previous topic that you don't like mhj brought them further in but that a diffrent topic i feel me and you already reached bed rock on before.

  • ADOR - HYBE Mega Thread || Summary on page 1

    Quote from Ves

    I'm not trying to change your mind - you asked and I answered honestly. If you just want to dismiss what I have to say because you feel I just don't like MHJ, that's your prerogative.


    As to if the same happened with BPD and he went on talking about how they were crying to him, yes, it would be just as alarming to me.


    People love to try to paint this HYBE STAN! or MHJ STAN! and the sad thing is, there are some like that out there. For these people, their chosen fighter is on the side of right and righteousness and the other must be 100% evil. It's not that black and white. There are huge red flags ON BOTH SIDES.

    Im not asking you to change my mind im asking you to explain yours. How does new jeans members crying becuase someone they are close to is going through a hard time mean the have a unhealthy co-dependence relationship filled with guilt.

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    Quote from TwiceKaren

    I think Tokkis wouldn't see them like that because they full support NJ but you also seem to forget a lot of people seem to be looking for any reason to jump on a hate train on idols, i also want to make it clear that everything i am saying is obviously my point of view, i could be completely wrong or i could be right but i do think discussions are important exactly because you can see the point of view of someone who has a different view than yours, it's just in my opinion i feel NewJeans being dragged into the spotlight for no reason COULD end up damaging their reputation eventually depending on how the feud is resolved

    Yes people will jump on any hate train coachella performance fron le sserafim is an easy reminder but once again my problem would be with the haters not mhj. I can understand you wanting new jeans to be out of it as much you can that is fair. I just have a problem with people acting like mhj created this huge sin and deserves to be crucified for it being ridiculous.


    Of course if it comes out she's lying or members didn't want their private conversation public that would clearly be different.

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    Quote from Ves

    To clarify, it's wouldn't be a problem for me if she just said she had the support of the members. But she instead feels the need to describe that in detail and the stuff she chooses to describe to the public is very emotionally fraught.


    IMO, how a person chooses to use their words often matters just as much and sometimes more than what they actually say. We are at a disadvantage having to rely on translations and we all know how translators can twist words inadvertently or not. But she's obviously choosing to describe some very devastating moments and as I said before, to the public.


    I don't think any of the members who called her crying thought those personal moments would be fodder for the whole nation. Of course, MHJ feels very exposed herself right now.

    okay but I don't see how this proves mhj has a unhealthy co-dependence relationship filled with guilt with new jeans members.


    This once again seems like you just don't like mhj showing how new jeans support her which is fair but far from what you originally quoted me with.


    Which begs question would you still feel the same if bang pd came out and said new jeans members where devastated by mhj betrayal and called them crying asking if he's okay.

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    Quote from TwiceKaren

    They are obviously a part of this which is exactly why i think is important to keep them as far away as possible from the spotlight, i will give you a an example on why


    Let's say MHJ says they fully support her and bla bla bla, then MHJ ends up losing whatever feud she and hybe have and NJ are forced to stay with HYBE and continue their carreer with them, they obviously won't be able to show support to MHJ anymore which can come across as backstabbing or switching sides out of convenience which would only affect NJ specially if even after losing MHJ supporters keep siding with her


    Now imagine that same scenarion without the comments MHJ made, people wouldn't care as much if NJ don't mention MHJ and just keep working or focusing on their carreers there would be questions ofc but they wouldn't look like back stabbers or team switchers

    but in that scenario nobody would view them as back stabbers or switch sides they would just be fulfilling their contract. Especially since in this situation mhj losing would mean its was proven she did commit the crime and possibly in jail.


    But let's go with the lesser consequence where she steps down/still claims innocent but hybe drops charges. Unless new jeans starts shit talking her in interviews I don't think anyone would view them as back stabbers.

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    Quote from Ves

    Everything MHJ described about the nature of her relationship with NJ members in her press conferences. I'm sure it wasn't a full picture, but as I said, I found the stuff she felt she needed to highlight alarming.

    Why was it alarming exactly. She described how members were sad about what she was going through and offered her words of encouragement. That sounds completely normal to me. What exactly did you find off putting.

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    Quote from TwiceKaren

    Most people have an issue with it because they don't want NewJeans brought into the drama, but i also think because some of the things she say come off as pity seeking behavior, i think if she said the girls are dealing the best they can with this or something vague like that it would be ok but she keeps saying how much they love her and support her and how she is their mom, it comes off as manipulative so Tokki's take her side blindly which is actually happening and working, Obviously Tokkis are invested into this so it's harder for them to be objective about it, and antis are going to blindly hate no matter what, but people who aren't full on tokkis or antis can be a bit more objective and that's why they raise worries about it and it's a bit frustrating that we are just dismissed like we have some kind of agenda

    They are a part of this wether they want to be or not they are literally the only artist in ador them and all the employees during the audit are part of this. Again this simply just reads as i dont agree with mhj so please dont say new jeans support you. While i understand some people may attack new jeans because they support mhj my problem would be for those idiots not mhj for saying it.

  • ADOR - HYBE Mega Thread || Summary on page 1

    Also do yall actually have a problem with mhj bringing up new jeans or do you have problem with them being brought with their support of mhj.


    It hybe came out and said that new jeans were extremely hurt by mhj betrayl or that they were crying about what she tried to do would yall actually care at all.


    Or do yall care because they support mhj while yall create theories on how evil and unhinged she is to the point where the only way someone could supprt her is by being manipulated.

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    Quote from killingtime1934

    Mhj been calling a groomer way before this

    She has evidence long before all this


    That she feel comfortable talking like this jn the open it just a reflection of how easy people let her go

    "Evidence" lol outside that taemin photo shoot which is not even grooming please enlightenin me on the other evidence plz


    Feel comfortable with what?? Millions of public figures have came out and said they felt like dying while going through rough situations what makes this any different?

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    Quote from killingtime1934

    Girl it's in the media now

    Out for everybody with internet to see it, the same way she comment on other groups and those see it nj must have see what she said bc it's all over korean news


    She is using them, saying the members cry, dropping name of x and y young girls FOR ALL OF KORA TO HEAR

    Okay but that is widely diffrent from what was being discussed. Sure they know now but people in this thread made it seem like she called the members and told them she was gonna kill herself.