Poll - Would you be in favor of a rule against discussing fandoms/other users in the kpop section?

I brought this up in another thread, but then wanted to add a poll. Apparently, I can't do that, so here we go.

Would you be in favor of a rule disallowed talking about fandoms/users in the kpop section. So, that would mean you could only talk about the groups themselves and their music.

Ex: group A's comeback was great/boring

Allowed

Ex: I think A is the best singer

Allowed

Ex: Haters are pressed

Not allowed

Ex: Some people here complain too much

Not allowed

Would people feel more welcome? Would there be more users and activity? Would it be boring?

Here's the original post

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Discuss the music and the idols, not fans/users

I used to be a member of a forum dedicated to a portion of pop culture. It was super active and was filled with fans who could be a bit too invested in their faves. This could lead to a lot of fighting and other negativity.

To counteract that, the forum instituted a rule that posts had to be about the pop culture itself. We couldn't discuss the other users or even the fans. The forum was for discussing the pop culture. After all, that's whatwe were all there for.

I have to say, it was a pleasure…

MissBehave

Jul 30th 2021

Quote from alexS

No because then some trolls from opposing fandoms would come in an shit on the artists and you can't call them out.

If only people would learn not to say bad things if they don't have to.

I've posted this before, but we need a refresher:

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"Shitting on" idols shouldn't be allowed either and that wouldn't be an issue in a well-moderated forum. Mods should be taking care of the true bashing posts and trolls. It's posters taking it upon themselves to call people out over any perceived insult and then those posters themselves getting retaliated on that causes fan wars. Report problematic posts and hold mods responsible for fair and unbiased actions.

Of course, a lot depends on what someone considers "shitting on" an idol. I don't agree with your gif that only nice things should be said. People should be able to have both positive and negative opinions on music and groups. Idols are selling a product and putting their talents in the public sphere. Fellow fans and users are not. There's a difference. Of course, attacks on anyone should not be allowed, but you should be able to say that you think a song is bad or that you think someone did their job badly without getting attacked or piled on by bullies.

Quote from harambelives

I think it depends on the type of threads. Achievement, appreciation, serious discussion about groups/idols (scandals, health etc) shouldnt have other groups brought up because it's obviously not about them. Otherwise for other general type of discussions I think it's ok.

Though I think the haters are pressed type threads are a grey area because depending on the initial post it could be a response thread to another fandom/group or clearly being shady towards others. These types are obviously starting or continuing beef with others.

I don't think "haters are pressed" threads are gray at all. I think that's throwing shade on a group of users on it's face. Those threads are always targeted towards a thinly veiled fandom.

Quote from th17e

As long as people don't target individual users and make personal insults/follow them to other parts of the forum to harass them about other things, it should be fine. We shouldn't limit too much what people can say or else we'll start losing users, and objectively, a little bit of chaos is good for a forum as far as traffic and engagement

I feel like forum toxicity has lost us a lot of users already. Also, I think that users are already limited as to what they can say, because so many are afraid of getting bashed and bullied, especially if they have opinions about any group with a large fandom here.

Quote from Afriyieau1

I doubt they will make a rule on this. Ngl it’s the disputes that drive traffic

Maybe, but maybe the disputes could be about th he music instead of about users and that could drive traffic instead.

Quote from dummi

yeah if you want the kpop section to die completely lmfao

This forum is already dead. Maybe people would talk more if they didn't fear getting attacked. The forum I was on before thrived with that rule. It was way bigger and more active than this forum. However, it was full of people that liked to have in-depth discussions and analyze things and share opinions, so maybe that's the difference.

Quote from CITY

This sounds like a recipe for getting more people to bash each other's favs to get under their skin because they can't address them directly.

Bashing isn't allowed though.

Quote from Elf_lover

No, it’s alright to discuss other fandoms as long as people respect that not everyone has to like that fandom - they are entitled to. That’s how shit fights start and I’ve blocked many people because of it. It’s a bit sad when one is denied an opinion. There’s lots of drama Queens here imo.

I feel like the drama queens are the ones that want to talk about other users instead of the music. Maybe if they aren't allowed to do that, they'll move on and we could have actual discussions instead.

Quote from ducky-mioda

Honestly, I think that stuff like discussing fandoms/other users in the K-pop section is fine as long as it's meaningful and doesn't end up being detrimental to a huge majority of the AKP community (I'm talking about stuff like thread derailments and quarreling in threads to the point that they get locked)...

What would be a meaningful discussion about another user?