Where did the false narrative that joy is the most pushed in rv come from?

  • Well into 2020 she was the fourth in individual activities. So I wonder why people are spreading this lie.

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    People point to her going on we got married and the drama but higher ups have publicly said that she was personally invited to audition. Sm didn't have shit to do with it. Its so ridiculous that she's named as sm's princess.

    Desbundar

  • i honestly think sm is just sleeping on rv all together so let's focus on getting the girls a group comeback first!! :pepelove1:

  • i honestly think sm is just sleeping on rv all together so let's focus on getting the girls a group comeback first!! :pepelove1:

    Ofc. The thing is joy has a new drama coming up and people keep bringing this up like she's the only rv member who's been acting. While as far as ikw both Irene and yeri have had movie releases this year....

    She had lead roles in kdramas very early which is a huge deal


    Maybe because of the drama she get and solo job at early of her career

    But she was invited by the producers not pushed by sm. Sm didn't really have any hand in that matter.

    Desbundar

  • Ofc. The thing is joy has a new drama coming up and people keep bringing this up like she's the only rv member who's been acting. While as far as ikw both Irene and yeri have had movie releases this year....


    But she was invited by the producers not pushed by sm. Sm didn't really have any hand in that matter.

    People always have that kind of thinking. When one member gets a lot of jobs, the will start thinking the member is pushed by the company. I think it also happen to BP in their early career

  • The 'Joy is being pushed the most' narrative isn't mainstream with the fanbase at all for the past few years, at least I haven't seen it said that much the past few years (or maybe only or more so by SM/RV antis, trolls and other-group stans, not sure why those are constantly going through the trouble).


    This was different though for the first few years after RV's debut: Joy got her 'We Got Married' gig, some other acting opportunities and there were all kinda examples that (some) fans mentioned as a sign SM themselves were actively highlighting Joy more in promo's, teasers etc (iirc an example was how Joy's crown had a jewel where the others' crown didn't, and some other examples where Joy's stance or styling was different from the others in group pics). Probably because there was more buzz around Joy in the first 1-2 years after debut, kinda like an 'emerging it girl' vibe.


    But as these trends go, up and down, that was only the first few years after RV's debut. The past few years, I've hardly heard it being mentioned at all. Certainly not now that the other 4 members have been building up their own individual activities and debuts, the past 1-3 years.


    As for Twitter, people really should learn by now not to pay that much attention to it; it's a cesspool where you can find odd or farfetched opinions from one end of the spectrum to the other end, as many as there are people. Basically the same applies to Pann and Nate.

  • have no idea who started that narrative


    looks like that's not true

    Joy was consistently in the last ranks when it came to vocal and screentime in their debut era. Even when it came to solo activities she wasn't so active in comparison to wendy, seulgi or Irene.


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    That jewel was hardly used again. Weird its being pointed out when other members wear crowns and fancy hats in the same era.



    P.S Sorry autumn leaf i didn't mean to quote you.

    Desbundar

  • We got married show, 2 Kdramas are some of the best solo promos of any RV member that is not a CF. The next best was music bank MC with Bogum which Irene got

    Wendy collabed with John legend, and Irene was supposed to have a duet with cha eunwoo who was blowing up at the time until it got canceled due to poor Wendy's fall.


    Plus Joy was personally invited to audition those dramas sm didn't even promote her wildly successful osts. Why give joy the least vocal, screen time and solo activities if she's their fave tho...

    Desbundar

  • She had lead roles in kdramas very early which is a huge deal

    Which all tanked btw, which made the narrative of her being invited even worst bc who keep calling and idol that do poorly and get bad review....like it make no sense. Irene got cfs above her bad attitude bc she sold out shit but joy didn't do well with the material she was given (and I'm not siding irene bc her contracts also didn't last long but brand were up to try with her)

  • Wendy collabed with John legend, and Irene was supposed to have a duet with cha eunwoo who was blowing up at the time until it got canceled due to poor Wendy's fall.


    Plus Joy was personally invited to audition those dramas sm didn't even promote her wildly successful osts. Why give joy the least vocal, screen time and solo activities if she's their fave tho...

    ooh i forgot about the duet.

    A duet with Eun woo 8| . I didn't hear about that

    I still think WGM and 2 dramas is bigger than any other thing the members got. Also, I find it hard to believe she got those acting roles herself coz her acting is lacking, and yes I have seen both dramas.

  • No it didn't , everybody in rv is doing poorly in charts, just a group cmb can save them and even thst right now sound difficult

    You didn't really get what I'm saying did you?

    Compare with Aseul sub-unit & Wendy solo, Joy OUTPERFORMING both of them

    For example:

    Joy Ost vs Aseul

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    Joy Ost vs Wendy solo

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  • Omg I had no idea Joy's ost was so successful. It's in the top amongst the whole of sm.


    It did so well even without sm lifting a finger to promote it. Damnnnn. To think people call her sm's princess even when she's done dirty like that and is still successful uff.

    Desbundar

  • Omg I had no idea Joy's ost was so successful. It's in the top amongst the whole of sm.


    It did so well even without sm lifting a finger to promote it. Damnnnn. To think people call her sm's princess even when she's done dirty like that and is still successful uff.

    Yes. From my pov, I think Joy will be the most successful solo out of RV; if SM decide to give her one. The receipts speak for itself, eventhough she isn't the most skilled members Knetz are digging her voice more.


    Yeah that's why I said that narrative is mainly bought by jealous akgaes of other members. Besides, that said members also got chances to sang popular drama OST. Actually singing wise vocal lines got more or less the same opportunity.

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