so i said acab and...

someone in my class said police officers help people make decisions so i was like all cops do is beat up poc and abuse their partners and my teacher got so pressed lmao. she was like n0t aLl cOpS and told me to be more sensitive because some people's parents might be cops or have died while serving. she said it was a learning moment for me. lmfaooooo. like yeah, acab includes your mother/brother/sister/father/cousin/uncle whoever. just cause they're your relative or died doesn't make them any less bastardized by the system. maybe they were a good person, but most likely they let the criminal behavior of their fellow officers slide, which makes them bastardized.

Quote from NaomiBlue

Yeah that's a bs argument I'm sorry you had to listen to that - total propaganda. police don't actually die at that high a rate, they're not even in the 10 deadliest jobs; their weapons and military-grade personal protection equipment keep them pretty darn safe

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/12/2…ccording-to-bls-data.html

im sure she might have been speaking from experience, so im sorry that happened to her, but it doesn't make me any less right lol. thanks for the article.

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I don't like the saying "ACAB" because it's misleading and it rubs people the wrong way. There's an effective way to say you disagree with the system and want it changed without resorting to a statement like that. Obama himself has said that we shouldn't be using phrases such as "Defund the police" because it gives the wrong impression.

This is all about working together, not just coming up with catchy phrases for shock value. The former actually gets things done through communication and negotiation. The later achieves nothing, but creates more division and resentment.

If you want more people to support your cause, especially ones who are actually in position to make changes, you're going to have to communicate with them effectively instead of antagonizing them when they haven't done anything directly wrong. Calling all of them "bad" is only going to make them feel like you're putting a target on their backs; they're just going to be less likely to listen to you.

I'm not sure if you've observed in recent days, but cops have been opposing pro-Trump, far-right folks. They're not all just a bunch of racist, hateful folks. Most of them are just out there to do their job.

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Quote from johnny

bad approach bad argument. the phrase and statements you make are a total turn off and create further division, but if that's what you are going for, you succeeded.

perhaps you should refer to the other thread you created about admitting when you are wrong, might do you some good.

See, I used to think the same way, but I realised that the "strong language" of political phrases are specifically meant to get the attention of the oppressors. If I said, Some Cops Are Bastardized, barely anyone would bat an eye, but saying All Cops Are Bastardized makes you shocked and wanting to know more. Pointing out that police officers are corrupted by the system they work in isn't going to divide us even more than racism and capitalism already has. I'm not really interested in working with the police. There's no compromise when the system itself was created to secure the "property" of upper class white men. As in slave catching.

I didn't specifically say the words "ACAB", I said that "all cops do is beat up poc and abuse their partners," which is supported by statistics. Black men face a 1 in 1000 chance of being killed by the police, and are 2.5 times more likely to die at the hands of the police than white men. (1) Police officer families experience domestic violence at a rate of 2 to 4 times the overall population. (2) I believe the positive functions of police systems can be done by other means without its many flaws and legacy of upholding racist systems. (3)

I know, the capitol police were doing their jobs to protect democracy. But police overall? The statistics and facts don't lie. Sure "not all cops", but when these "good" cops don't report injustice and crimes committed by "bad" cops, they're also bad cops. They're corrupted by the system they're apart of, so even the "good" cops are bastardized.