Things you can't stand anymore in K-pop?

Kpop fans

- fake deep lores “concept explainers” for songs

- award shows being paid popularity contests instead of merit-based

- albums with 10 versions but only 2 new songs

- fans acting like brand deals are olympic medals

- survival shows where the talent is missing but max evil editing

- concerts that are basically karaoke with lights

- companies making idols apologize for existing

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- Blatant noise marketing ( Saying the n-word, etc )

- Fans who can't tolerate any negative comments about their favorite group or idol

- Fans who praise idols for doing the bare minimum expected from an adult (cooking, washing dishes, respecting women, etc.)

- Songs without a bridge

- Choruses that are just the same word sung repeatedly

- Lip-syncing at concerts or excessively loud backtracking

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Agreed.

People love to trash my faves for their singing but they fact that they weren't scared to sing live despite knowing their vocal shortcomings says a lot about how committed they are to putting on a good show.

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Kpop fans

Also agreed.

- vocals overly processed on those yt shows like it's live, dingo etc. i'd rather listen to playback than those robotic voices.

- pre-releases. hate it.

- survival shows where the group has an expiration date. just make it fixed.

- spam releasing shit ass remixes for clout and numbers

- everything about alldayproject and the obvious rage bait marketing their team is doing

- pointless solo debuts with zero identity and personality, that leave no impact.

- excessive releases from groups. quantity is not quality. some groups have over 200+ songs and over 60% of it is filler. one or two cbs a year is more than enough.

- False equivalences. Thinking that all #1s are equal, that all awards are equal, that they can rank the idols by making a list of criteria then who win the most criteria will win the match,

- Overly-specified records,

- International fans' delusion about their importance,

- evaluating an era by another era's standard.

Actually kpop now is better than what it used to. Many things I couldn't stand back then have gone:

- the thought that less actractive = more talented,

- companies as families,

- group fans. It haven't completely gone but became less important, now onlies/akgaes are running the fandoms,

- big 3 domination.

- I don't like how easy it is for kpop fans to dehumanise each other,

- I dislike songs shorter than 3 minutes,

- I don't get photocards, sorry,

- I don't like how being cool or being cute is conceptional, even when it's inauthentic for an idol's personality, age or situation,

- at the same time I don't think that anyone can be fully authentic, tbh.

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- Songs without a bridge

Agreed!

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Agreed with most things here.

- Protest trucks and Funeral Wreaths.

- Stans saying that idols they don't like cant sing, while there faves lipsync every performance.

on the other hand, i completely hate it when kpop fans call an idol the best vocalist based on how high they can reach.

if that were the criteria to become a top tier vocalist then I can easily claim Georgia Brown is the best vocalist ever because she can reach a G10. Like...can u imagine how stupid that sounds??

I want real vocal skill and not just pitchy belting and calling it being a good vocalist ffs

1. Hybe

2. anything related to Hybe

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1. Hybe

2. anything related to Hybe

So NewJeans? Got it

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So NewJeans? Got it

NJ is the antithesis of Hybe

and idgaf about corrupted kim&chang judge's decision, these girls left hybe on 24, and pretty CLEARLY.

them being forced back MEANS NOTHING.

There's a lot of things that I ignore or don't interact with, so I won't list them. But the things I can't stand but used to be accepting of in the past are:

- idols lip-syncing during the concerts (I personally want to attend live concerts to listen to live music, not only see the artists)

- songs under 3 minutes, unless somehow they're still complex and not lacking

- toxic fans trying to pick fights with other fandoms

- also toxic fans who think they can tell the idols what to do, how to act or what they should look like

- and fans who treat idols as babies

I also sometimes dislike fans who don't understand constructive criticism and see idols as those perfect beings who don't need to improve their craft, but usually I'm good at ignoring this. I also know that some idols simply can't or don't want to work on their skills and I grew to accept it.

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- I don't like how easy it is for kpop fans to dehumanise each other,

- I dislike songs shorter than 3 minutes,

- I don't get photocards, sorry,

- I don't like how being cool or being cute is conceptional, even when it's inauthentic for an idol's personality, age or situation,

- at the same time I don't think that anyone can be fully authentic, tbh.

I agree with your last two points a lot and it's something that I've been thinking about recently.

On one hand, I grew to dislike when some idols have this stage persona that they have to stick to. It feels fake and sort of cartoonish, especially when it's not really natural for them and doesn't align with their real personality. But then I can't blame any idols for also keeping their real personality to themselves and their family/friends. With the amount of exposure, it's only normal that they wouldn't show everything to the fans.

I remember when early in their career SNSD had those personas but after a while they mostly gave up on them. I guess when you have a bigger group, it makes it easier for the fans to tell everyone apart, because they can remember the main qualities but to me it always felt strange.

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NJ is the antithesis of Hybe

and idgaf about corrupted kim&chang judge's decision, these girls left hybe on 24, and pretty CLEARLY.

them being forced back MEANS NOTHING.

but they are related to hybe

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but they are related to hybe

nothing of consequence

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on the other hand, i completely hate it when kpop fans call an idol the best vocalist based on how high they can reach.

if that were the criteria to become a top tier vocalist then I can easily claim Georgia Brown is the best vocalist ever because she can reach a G10. Like...can u imagine how stupid that sounds??

I want real vocal skill and not just pitchy belting and calling it being a good vocalist ffs

There have always been fans who think this way and I agree it's quite irritating. I think it's mostly people who don't know anything or much about singing but are just impressed that some idols can hit super high notes. They probably don't even notice if those notes were sung in a healthy way or not, it doesn't matter to them.