Illit and Baby Monster stans are attacking H2H on twitter - “No star power + No Stage presence”

    It’s giving hater and jealous :!: attacking a 5 month rookie group is pathetic! Just because H2H are receiving praise and rising in charts :suure:


    Aespa was attacked for being out of sync and now it’s the opposite for H2H ^^


    H2H will be big :borahae:


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    “h2h is 5 months old group with 3 songs and the hate from stantwt is ridiculous. they called them “nugu”, they criticised them for being synchronized, saying h2h have no star power and stage presence. funny thing is they always do this if h2h get praises. oh h2h you will be BIG.“


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    Quote from foreveraespaaa

    Because I’m a realistic! Im sorry I don’t just share positive things from twitter/youtube/reddit/other platforms :!: I share the good and bad! (Especially when it involve my favs!) If you dislike it then don’t open the thread :?:

    Maybe consider that not everything from Twitter needs to be brought here, especially when it’s just drama that most people wouldn’t have even known about otherwise. These forums aren’t meant to be an echo chamber for every bit of negativity online.

    Quote from xx-jenn-xx

    Maybe consider that not everything from Twitter needs to be brought here, especially when it’s just drama that most people wouldn’t have even known about otherwise. These forums aren’t meant to be an echo chamber for every bit of negativity online.

    I don’t bring everything negative from twitter on here :?: I generally avoid positing negative things I see on other platforms especially when it’s malicious or nasty but when it’s about my favs or I’m curious about it I have a right to express it and I will repost them on here. You have no right telling me what I can or cannot post :?:


    As i previously said if you dislike it then leave my post!

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    Quote from foreveraespaaa

    I don’t bring everything negative from twitter on here :?: I generally avoid positing negative things I see on other platforms especially when it’s malicious or nasty but when it’s about my favs or I’m curious about it I have a right to express it and I will repost them on here. You have no right telling me what I can or cannot post :?:


    As i previously said if you dislike it then leave my post!

    You’re free to post what you want, just like I’m free to express that constantly bringing in negativity from other platforms gets tiring. Not everything needs to be carried over from Twitter, especially when most people here wouldn’t have even seen it. It just creates unnecessary drama.

    Quote from xx-jenn-xx

    You’re free to post what you want, just like I’m free to express that constantly bringing in negativity from other platforms gets tiring. Not everything needs to be carried over from Twitter, especially when most people here wouldn’t have even seen it. It just creates unnecessary drama.

    I’m not going back & forth on this matter! I understand what you’re saying and I believe it would hold weight if I was constantly sharing hate post related or unrelated to my favs, but I don’t :!:


    My feelings are valid in feeling upset my favs are being ridiculed and I’m allowed to discuss that. Isn’t that the idea of a forum :?: unfortunately life isn’t all good! People are welcome to discuss how they feel about this topic or ignore it! I’m not forcing anyone to participate nor will remain silent when people try to shame my favs for being good at their job :!: the post is open for discussion but do not try to shame me for bringing awareness to this :oops:

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    Quote from foreveraespaaa

    I’m not going back & forth on this matter! I understand what you’re saying and I believe it would hold weight if I was constantly sharing hate post related or unrelated to my favs, but I don’t :!:


    My feelings are valid in feeling upset my favs are being ridiculed and I’m allowed to discuss that. Isn’t that the idea of a forum :?: unfortunately life isn’t all good! People are welcome to discuss how they feel about this topic or ignore it! I’m not forcing anyone to participate nor will remain silent when people try to shame my favs for being good at their job :!: the post is open for discussion but do not try to shame me for bringing awareness to this :oops:

    I get that you’re upset and want to defend your faves. that’s fair. I’m not saying you can’t post, but I’m also allowed to say that constantly dragging in negativity from Twitter just isn’t helpful for the overall vibe here. Not everything needs to be “brought awareness to,” especially when it’s drama that most people wouldn’t have seen or cared about otherwise. That’s all I was pointing out. :nct6:

    Quote from xx-jenn-xx

    I get that you’re upset and want to defend your faves. that’s fair. I’m not saying you can’t post, but I’m also allowed to say that constantly dragging in negativity from Twitter just isn’t helpful for the overall vibe here. Not everything needs to be “brought awareness to,” especially when it’s drama that most people wouldn’t have seen or cared about otherwise. That’s all I was pointing out. :nct6:

    Insightful!


    In a roundabout way I feel like you’ve fanned the flames ^^ now more people will click the thread exposing them to the topic, who previously might have ignored it altogether :!: Interesting :oops:

  • AllKill VIP
    Quote from foreveraespaaa

    Insightful!


    In a roundabout way I feel like you’ve fanned the flames ^^ now more people will click the thread exposing them to the topic, who previously might have ignored it altogether :!: Interesting :oops:

    If the goal was to limit attention on the issue, turning it into a debate kind of defeats that. You're giving it even more visibility. I just made a simple point about how constant drama reposts affect the forum vibe, but if that alone is enough to cause this much back-and-forth, maybe that says something.

    Quote from xx-jenn-xx

    If the goal was to limit attention on the issue, turning it into a debate kind of defeats that. You're giving it @@@bc8d521a-1dff-42a9-b1a4-7e0f07ee4032@@@ visibility. I just made a simple point about how constant drama reposts affect the forum vibe, but if that alone is enough to cause this much back-and-forth, maybe that says something.

    My intention was to bring awareness to this :oops: It seems your intention was to tell me to stop bringing negativity from twitter on here, which I don’t. Us debating doesn’t take away from people being exposed to my original topic! As I mentioned it brings in more awareness or at least curiosity! You unintentionally fanned the flames :!:


    Sometimes the best answer is silence! I achieved my goal :oops:

  • AllKill VIP
    Quote from foreveraespaaa

    My intention was to bring awareness to this :oops: It seems your intention was to tell me to stop bringing negativity from twitter on here, which I don’t. Us debating doesn’t take away from people being exposed to my original topic! As I mentioned it brings in more awareness or at least curiosity! You unintentionally fanned the flames :!:


    Sometimes the best answer is silence! I achieved my goal :oops:

    If your goal was attention, congrats, I’m done entertaining it. Just remember, not all attention is good attention.

    just another day in kpop fandoms


    there are bad apples in every bunch - there are SOME bad fans in every fandom


    are there SOME bad Gllits and Monstiez? of course there are

    just as there are SOME bad S2Us


    obviously there's nothing stopping the OP from mentioning certain groups attacking certain other groups on twitter or otherwise however it doesn't mean all Gllits and Monstiez are bad and it doesn't mean all S2Us are innocent


    we should judge a person based on his or her actions only not because of their race or colour or ethnicity or fandom or whatever...

    if people are attacking and say negatively things about another group then it's because that person has issues not because they belong to a certain group or fandom and we should call out that person specifically

    I will always say it's odd for Illit fans to attack other fans after what they went through last year. I think that's the nature of social media where people send hate towards idols and other fans. I think giving them visibility is not the way to go even though it's viral. However, I don't blame op for doing that because that's a lot of engagement making fun of the group.


    Lastly, people need to leave H2H alone. They're performing well for a rookie group and it takes time to develop. Look at Illit for example they improved after having a bit of a rough start. I think we need to give time for groups to grow and eventually they will shine.

    H2hs are very fun to watch on stage, I have no idea what these people are talking about lol. Is it gaslighting? Like how they tried to tu gaslight us into thinking the girls looked ugly and botched?

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    They actually have a lot of stage presence

    I listen to Style when it was release, like it but never came back to it


    But after watching their viral performance where they sing live and see how they looked like they were having fun on stage makes me watch more stage about them


    And it lead to Style being one of my most stream summer of the song


    And why a Blackpink stan is talking about vocal skills exactly ???

    If it was coming from a Moomoo or a reveluv etc....i would understand but ...

    Quote from chounim

    H2hs are very fun to watch on stage, I have no idea what these people are talking about lol. Is it gaslighting? Like how they tried to tu gaslight us into thinking the girls looked ugly and botched?

    The issue is Hybe created the narrative about the group being visual holes and antis ran with it. I have no clue why they would create a narrative about a rookie group. I know they're competition but why sink that low to media play that?


    I think people were expecting concept that required high budget but not everything needs to be flashy. I think what hurts them a bit is many 5th gen groups have similar aesthetics, so it's hard for concepts to stand out. If we're talking about just music, then I will say they're performing well because their title tracks have performed well on the charts.


    I just think a lot of the hate towards this group is forced and people allowed weird narratives stick.

    Quote from chounim

    H2hs are very fun to watch on stage, I have no idea what these people are talking about lol. Is it gaslighting? Like how they tried to tu gaslight us into thinking the girls looked ugly and botched?

    It’s honestly infuriating because the girls train so hard and spend full days practising in the dance rooms to be this good just for people to attack them :!: like wtf! It was so uncalled for too!


    By all means hype up your favs but why bring down a rookie gg just because they’re receiving praise and support :oops:


    I rather they came out and said they dislike H2H and see them as a threat to their favs at least Hachu’s know where we stand but a lot of them hide behind backhanded comments and then will say btw I like H2H them lol!

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