What is with manon constantly being excluded from katseye

I've been seeing so much speculation too about Manon and Daniela potentially beefing?? Like Manon deleted a lot of her insta posts abt specifically daniela (one example being she deleted a post of writing that said manon x daniela forever). And daniela apparently reposted all the member's posts celebrating her own bday except for manon.

and then daniela was seen hanging out with a dream academy contestant that was apparently very shady to manon?

so it's just overwhelming right now. i think some fans are being a bit parasocial and jumping to conclusions really quickly. but the lack of transparency and behaviors we would normally associate as people fighting is obviously going to worry people and cause things to spiral out of control.

i dont want to assume anything. because i dont know these girls personally and i dont know what happens behind the scenes but i understand, after all of this, why people are kinda freaking out lol

it makes no sense why they would go out of their way to exclude someone that they scouted

but hybe is full of shit, so ya never know

Another reason why I don't like Survival shows as a method of creating groups

You literally pit a bunch of young people against each other, make them compete against each other and purposely amplify any negative issues individuals may have for the "drama" and then tell the "survivors", who were complete strangers before hand with no real bond, to suddenly bond up and work together and portray themselves as a close knit unit when they were birthed in a negative environment.

This one is also amplified by language, national and cultural differences and I'm somewhat surprised they are actually holding out this long.

Hmm I feel it can be one of two things

1. She’s leaving the group so they’re constantly excluding her.

2. That’s her personality. She’s not super into doing idol like things and excludes her self often. We saw in the reality show how she would skip things to preserve her mental health and she wants to do things on her time. Being an idol even if it’s just filming a TikTok or video means you have to do it at that time and be present. People will not keep moving their schedule to accommodate you As far as I’ve seen manon is not super into keeping up with things like that. Like that glossier picture stan twitter keeps posting has her go to that spot to take a pic the next day instead of with the girls. Instead of asking why katseye keep excluding her I would ask why can’t manon be there on time.

I feel it can even be a combination of both those things. She’s leaving so she’s not participating in everything.

But one thing is for sure. I don’t think the company is deliberately excluding. She’s a really popular member after all. For me it’s either that she’s leaving or by choice she doesn’t want to be there. Or both.

Also this stan twitter mentality of placing manon on a pedestal and vilifying the other girls is gross.

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I've been seeing so much speculation too about Manon and Daniela potentially beefing?? Like Manon deleted a lot of her insta posts abt specifically daniela (one example being she deleted a post of writing that said manon x daniela forever). And daniela apparently reposted all the member's posts celebrating her own bday except for manon.

and then daniela was seen hanging out with a dream academy contestant that was apparently very shady to manon?

so it's just overwhelming right now. i think some fans are being a bit parasocial and jumping to conclusions really quickly. but the lack of transparency and behaviors we would normally associate as people fighting is obviously going to worry people and cause things to spiral out of control.

i dont want to assume anything. because i dont know these girls personally and i dont know what happens behind the scenes but i understand, after all of this, why people are kinda freaking out lol

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I feel like as if Stan Twitter just places manon on a pedestal .

It’s a fact that she’s very flaky and people in the show didn’t like her for that. None of those girls on the show even did anything terrible. People were mostly annoyed she never turns up for things and only did things when it was convenient for her.

Ofc someone like that will behave the same way after getting in the group as well.

If you have to make a tiktok : you need to be there on time

If you’re filming : you have to be there on time

If you’re on a variety content : you have to be there on time.

Manon gets tired or prioritizes her own self often (nothing wrong with this) but this naturally means you’re not going to be present for a lot of things. Stan twitter is basically saying everyone should change everything to accommodate manon always which I call BS.

Ofc all this is my own speculation but Stan Twitter always wants to blame everyone other than manon herself when the truth I guess is that we won’t know until they tells us.

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I feel like as if Stan Twitter just places manon on a pedestal .

It’s a fact that she’s very flaky and people in the show didn’t like her for that. None of those girls on the show even did anything terrible. People were mostly annoyed she never turns up for things and only did things when it was convenient for her.

Ofc someone like that will behave the same way after getting in the group as well.

If you have to make a tiktok : you need to be there on time

If you’re filming : you have to be there on time

If you’re on a variety content : you have to be there on time.

Manon gets tired or prioritizes her own self often (nothing wrong with this) but this naturally means you’re not going to be present for a lot of things. Stan twitter is basically saying everyone should change everything to accommodate manon always which I call BS.

Ofc all this is my own speculation but Stan Twitter always wants to blame everyone other than manon herself when the truth I guess is that we won’t know until they tells us.

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I honestly don't know what I think, so yeah we'll just have to be patient and see... or else we'll all be sent to speculation hell, I suppose...

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I seriously don't want 1st one to be true😔😔😓 but I think it probably is.

She also deleted bunch of posts from her Instagram, mostly with Danielle, So I don't think stans are exaggerating this situation.

I also think many puts manon on pedestal may be because many like me got into group because of her and she is one of the most biased members.

Tbh a popular member leaving at this stage is never a good sign, I don't know how katseye will deal with this disaster 🙄

Also, that evil editing by hybe in show is the biggest to blame here.

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Tbh she’s a fav of mine too. And I was rooting for her from the start.

The show was indeed the root cause it made people guess and speculate so many things.

What I won’t accept is everyone blaming other members for all this and saying they’re mean girls if they talk to past contestants or other things like that.

Anyway all groups I liked some how get into some career ending scandal or other I’m now used to it

I heard some people saying she was getting injectables on her down time. Apparently some pics were going around with her altered face. Don't know how true that is.

I think we need to wait and see because making speculations can be dangerous. We don't know if she's taking time for a health break or personal matter.

I didn't watch the reality show, so I am unsure if it's shady for Daniela to hangout with the former contestant. I did read some on Twitter say she was mean to Manon. On that front not a good look but we have to remember in groups we don't know the dynamics. In a lot of groups it's still a job and they could be just acquaintances, and that's okay.

I do find it odd that Hybe hasn't made a statement that she's taking time off. I thought it was weird she didn't show up for the performance video for gameboy, and not have a statement about it. Hybe with other groups have stated when an idol is taking a time off, so it's strange to leave fans in the dark about this. I think there's too much smoke, and Hybe needs to give the fans something because the longer they don't comment the worse this situation gets.

Hopefully it's nothing too serious, but it's not a good look to leave fans in the dark.

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I think we need to wait and see because making speculations can be dangerous. We don't know if she's taking time for a health break or personal matter.

I didn't watch the reality show, so I am unsure if it's shady for Daniela to hangout with the former contestant. I did read some on Twitter say she was mean to Manon. On that front not a good look but we have to remember in groups we don't know the dynamics. In a lot of groups it's still a job and they could be just acquaintances, and that's okay.

I do find it odd that Hybe hasn't made a statement that she's taking time off. I thought it was weird she didn't show up for the performance video for gameboy, and not have a statement about it. Hybe with other groups have stated when an idol is taking a time off, so it's strange to leave fans in the dark about this. I think there's too much smoke, and Hybe needs to give the fans something because the longer they don't comment the worse this situation gets.

Hopefully it's nothing too serious, but it's not a good look to leave fans in the dark.

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No one was mean to Manon. That itself is made up.

Manon used to be flaky and skip practice and prioritized her own health (none of which is wrong ofc) and people were upset about that because their own challenges in the show were being jeopardized.

Then all of it got eventually settled.

I agree many were probably jealous of Manon and all that

But no one on that show did anything that would warrant katseye members never speaking to them again. That’s just people being bat shit crazy.

the camila cabello of kpop

Not a huge fan of the group but I’m always reading people discussing this on twitter and it’s becoming hard to excuse tbh

I know they didn’t get off to the best start during the Netflix show but I assumed they spoke it out behind the scenes! Now it looks like theirs defo an issue within the group and maybe the company

There is no villain and there is no bullying. There was a problem and that problem was solved. We cannot remove the context by which all of the girls were in, and we ALSO cannot disregard how producers so often manipulated footage and editing to create a storyline. As much as we see the documentary as a glimpse into their reality, IT’S NOT. It’s a show made for entertainment which has been carefully sorted through and crafted through every second.

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There is no villain and there is no bullying. There was a problem and that problem was solved. We cannot remove the context by which all of the girls were in, and we ALSO cannot disregard how producers so often manipulated footage and editing to create a storyline. As much as we see the documentary as a glimpse into their reality, IT’S NOT. It’s a show made for entertainment which has been carefully sorted through and crafted through every second.

This.

SO many Manon fans like to say that the other girls were bullying her but it really just looked to me that they were frustrated with seeing her get so much attention despite seemingly giving the bare minimum. They felt like their hardwork was overlooked simply because a prettier girl was involved.

And again, Manon has showed on multiple occasions that she has moved on from it so I think her insta posts being deleting has more to do with Daniela and the girl she was spotted hanging out with.

this is what i found about naisha. take it with a grain of salt, as i am no expert on katseye lore - i just found this in a quick twitter search. also, i am only posting this so that people get more context about why people think there'd be an issue over daniela hanging out with naisha. again, like others have said, we don't actually know what's going on at the end of the day. this is just what i am seeing twitter people discussing!!!

who knows? we don't know if naisha apologized and potentially made up with manon? but also we can't assume it has happened. so fans just need to BREATHE. but because it's getting out of hand, it's probably better for things to be sorted sooner rather than later since from the fans perspectives, things are only piling up.

edit: ok i just realized how rude the second tweet was being to naisha, i should've read it closer. i removed it cuz it was too much but basically it was claiming that lara ALLEGEDLY unfollowed naisha after her comment posted in the tweet that i still have posted.