NJZ's Danielle shares shockingly candid insights on her experiences as a trainee pre-MHJ

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I don't give a damn about your baseless conjecture. The constant projection people make about NJZ, almost wishing for them to be abused and exploited victims to validate their personal distaste towards MHJ, is honestly creepy at BEST.

There are zero indications the girls weren't treated with respect and care under MHJ. You're not even a fan, so stop trying to talk down to one who has seen all the lives, vlogs and fan content that painted a clear picture of how happy the girls were before the drama erupted last April.

We will never know everything that happens behind the scenes, but people who ARE behind the scenes have gone on record multiple times vouching for how well the girls are treated by MHJ and how much of a joy it is to work with them on any project.

So spare me the doomposting and concern trolling.

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It's not baseless, and I'm not trolling!

Also, stop talking nonsense. I never said I wish anything bad for NJZ. Just because I don't trust MHJ and any other Kpop agency, or fck it, any adults around underage Idols, doesn't mean I want these girls to be harmed!

What's creepy is that you're trying to protect MHJ, who's obviously have a big influence on these girls, to say the least. She's literally using them as a shield. If you can't see that, you're part of the problem! I mean, where's MHJ? When did we see her lat time with these girls? When did she make a statement? I can't even remember.

Yeah, there are no real evidence against MHJ, just like there were no evidence against Kim Soohyun till now. That's why I said, refrain from being ignorant before it's too late!

Mate, are you 5? You can't be this naive. Just because you watched all of their content, doesn't mean MHJ is a nice person. Seriously, what is this nonsense argument? I watched every MAMAMOO content. Is that made RBW a nice company? No! Even tho, I heard the members praising the company, the CEO and other people there many times.

It's one thing to defend the girls, and it's another to be ignorant about Kpop agencies and their CEO's.

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Stopped reading here.

Get out of my thread.

Stop trying to paint MHJ as a nice person!

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It's always the Suffering Olympics with K-Pop stans, who think their idols having the most horrific trainee experience is another bullet point to brag about in an achievement post.

People always talk about being pro-idol and wanting the industry to change its suffocating and oftentimes exploitative practices in idol training, but when an idol does speak out, especially if it's not THEIR preferred idol, get ready for another round of the Suffering Olympics.

If not that, it devolves into mind-numbing, unintelligible rants about that's the way it's always been and the idols knew that before signing up for the job. Surely I don't need to expound on why "this is the way it's always been, so this is the way it should always be" is one of the most destructive mindsets a person can have in any aspect of life.

What trainees are still subjected to today is completely barbaric and archaic. MHJ trashing all those tyrannically oppressive management strategies didn't ruin NJZ; it made them better artists and happier.

Imagine how bad it must have been for a ray of sunshine like Danielle to lose her sense of self during that period of her life.

I've seen too many of my favorite idols get chewed up and spit out by this industry to not want better for the next generations of idols, and it will take current stars like Danielle speaking out and sharing their experiences to make change happen.

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I'm always on the receiving end of these

100% agree though, well said. That is why I will continue to support NJZ and remain on the right side of history.

Yama-Chan , will you take David33 as your lawfully paired partner to bicker and argue with for the rest of your days?

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Too bad.

The Mother MHJ has already decreed it and so it shall be

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It's always the Suffering Olympics with K-Pop stans, who think their idols having the most horrific trainee experience is another bullet point to brag about in an achievement post.

People always talk about being pro-idol and wanting the industry to change its suffocating and oftentimes exploitative practices in idol training, but when an idol does speak out, especially if it's not THEIR preferred idol, get ready for another round of the Suffering Olympics.

If not that, it devolves into mind-numbing, unintelligible rants about that's the way it's always been and the idols knew that before signing up for the job. Surely I don't need to expound on why "this is the way it's always been, so this is the way it should always be" is one of the most destructive mindsets a person can have in any aspect of life.

What trainees are still subjected to today is completely barbaric and archaic. MHJ trashing all those tyrannically oppressive management strategies didn't ruin NJZ; it made them better artists and happier.

Imagine how bad it must have been for a ray of sunshine like Danielle to lose her sense of self during that period of her life.

I've seen too many of my favorite idols get chewed up and spit out by this industry to not want better for the next generations of idols, and it will take current stars like Danielle speaking out and sharing their experiences to make change happen.

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that made me think how so many idols who met njz say that just looking at them gove them 'healing'.

the healing comes because njz members were nurtured in a respectful, human and creative working environnement in og ador with mhj as their ceo and their parents close to them.

I remember the aespa girls saying that too, and i wish these darlings were also treated better and more humanly. And also have more freedom .

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I mean, I'm sure there are good people, but no one is perfect. I don't really want to compare people, but cases like Kim Soohyun for example shows everyone that just because an adult is nice to a kid, doesn't mean they have nice intentions

Whoa whoa, slow down eith that comparison rn

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I don't really want to compare people, but cases like Kim Soohyun for example shows everyone that just because an adult is nice to a kid, doesn't mean they have nice intentions.

Please don't.

I get what you mean but just don't.

There legit proof the KSH is a groomer and a disgusting human being. Until you can provide proof that MHJ is that type of person then refrain from saying or making comparisons like these.

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Yama-Chan , will you take David33 as your lawfully paired partner to bicker and argue with for the rest of your days?

No offense, but why are you asking him? This ain't the 18th century anymore. I have a say in this too.

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Whoa whoa, slow down eith that comparison rn

I'm just saying how it is. People can look nice and all, but most of the time they're predators, basically. Especially in this industry.

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Please don't.

I get what you mean but just don't.

There legit proof the KSH is a groomer and a disgusting human being. Until you can provide proof that MHJ is that type of person then refrain from saying or making comparisons like these.

Yes, I know, but cases like that are the reason I don't trust anyone in this industry anymore. Never said MHJ is the same, I'm just saying there's a big chance she's not as nice as the girls says it.

It's not a real comparison, just an example, because KHS's image was even better than MHJ's. Everyone thought and said he's a nice guy, and now he's not. To say the least.

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I didn't even see that David said that because I usually skip over 95% of what he types. And I'm glad I did or this thread would've been a lot more hostile as a result. What a tactless, tone deaf comparison to make

Actually, it's a perfect comparison because it shows everyone that most people are the complete opposite of what they show to the public. That's why Kpop fans should stop saying things like: MHJ saved the girls, treating them like real daughters and stuff. Like, come on now, the girls are product for her too, not her friends. There's no CEO on this planet who treats Kpop Idols like their own kids.

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Read the room and shut up.

Sorry if the truth hurts. 😅

interesting