Did Olivia Marsh plagiarise Isaac Dunbar?

Taemin-Identity · Feb 21st 2025

Im seeing this all over my tl on twitter, and I wanted to discuss it here.

Supposedly Olivia Marsh(if you don’t know her, she is sister of Danielle from NJZ) have stolen Isaac Dunbar’s song or in other words plagiarised it.

This is the song Isaac Dunbar claims that Olivia plagiarised from.

Song name is “Onion boy”

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This is Olivia’s song that Isaac claims to be as plagiarism. Name of the song is “Backseat”

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I think it is a clear example of Plagiarism, as I listened to both songs like 5 times. The rhythm, melody and chord progression are exactly the same.

What do you guys think?

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DaisyTheGenuine · Feb 21st 2025

the intros sound pretty identical, common chord progression or not. I get why the guy was upset.

Olivia is not her sister and bunnies should not take upon themselves to defend her and Hybe stans shouldn't be trying to bring Illit issue up, attacking her for it.

Unfortunate situation all around, at least both sides are trying to resolve it

CaraFIMIE · Feb 21st 2025

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Olivia is not her sister

She isn't?

DaisyTheGenuine · Feb 21st 2025

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She isn't?

In the sense of individualism, not genetics

They're obviously sisters but different people

Rooney87 · Feb 21st 2025

I mean it's pretty identical.

Sadly already turned in to a fanwar. You have Bunnies in his Insta and Army is Olivia Insta.

merribelle · Feb 21st 2025

I loved Olivia’s song she has a beautiful voice but you are right the similarities are there

Jasque-O-Part2 · Feb 21st 2025

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Tatiana1820 · Feb 21st 2025

more media noise for baby Livy and her amazing ep .

I'm sure whatever disagrement they had can be solved appropriatly .

DaisyTheGenuine · Feb 21st 2025

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more media noise for baby Livy and her amazing ep .
I'm sure whatever disagrement they had can be solved appropriatly .

Was the worst song on the EP anyway

Waterworks and Strategy>>>>

Tatiana1820 · Feb 21st 2025

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Was the worst song on the EP anyway
Waterworks and Strategy>>>>

yes! and i really loved 42 .

xx-jenn-xx · Feb 21st 2025

I’ve only heard snippets, and while the songs sound similar, I’m no expert. However, Isaac Dunbar, as an independent artist without major backing, likely felt frustrated and turned to social media to vent. While his posts were unprofessional, he has since deleted them and apologized.

What’s troubling is the amount of racist and homophobic comments being directed at him. If Olivia did plagiarize his work and it can be proven, he has every right to be upset. His reaction may not have been ideal, but dismissing his concerns because of it isn’t fair.

Also, while Olivia is Danielle from NJZ’s sister, she is her own person. It’s confusing to see NJZ fans going out of their way to defend her as if this issue involves the group. It doesn’t, and it’s important to separate the two.

CaraFIMIE · Feb 21st 2025

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I'm sure whatever disagrement they had can be solved appropriatly .

icyruios · Feb 21st 2025

I usually roll my eyes regarding plagiarism issues but after listening to both songs ermm

Also poor guys twitter is a mess

Irari · Feb 21st 2025

I can definitely see the argument of plagiarism here.

If it's true that some bunnies are attacking the dude--they need to understand that NJZ and olivia are two separate entities. They should let the artists themselves sort it out first before throwing slander.

Rooney87 · Feb 21st 2025

She is her own person which is why this should be aimed at every party involved. What those fans are saying to Isaac is unacceptable. Olivia socials are also getting hate. I hate doing whataboutisms but it needs to be pointed out to everyone. Both set of fan bases are doing this not just one.

haricot · Feb 21st 2025

Both artists seems to handle it quite professionally Although the war between NJZ fans and Hybe stans on X concerning this issue is probably far from over.

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BlackpinkHouse · Feb 21st 2025

What i hate is the hypocrisy of this. A ton of stans of various fandoms went all in on the anti-Hybe hate train using fake plagiarism accusations. Now those same stans are twisting themselves into knots trying to defend against actual plagiarism just because it was committed by their faves' sister.

DaisyTheGenuine · Feb 22nd 2025

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Both artists seems to handle it quite professionally Although the war between NJZ fans and Hybe stans on X concerning this issue is probably far from over.
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Shitty situation all around

Sucks for him as an independent artist and her as a rookie that released her first album. Wonder if this is some weird mix up since the song is available for sampling

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What i hate is the hypocrisy of this. A ton of stans of various fandoms went all in on the anti-Hybe hate train using fake plagiarism accusations. Now those same stans are twisting themselves into knots trying to defend against actual plagiarism just because it was committed by their faves' sister.

And the same can be said in the opposite direction. Do I need to bring up the OG song LSF's team lifted for Easy?

Regardless of who on Olivia's team is at fault, this girl has been absolutely dragged through the mud and had the most vile things said about her not because of this situation, but because people were using it as an excuse to take the Hybe-Ador mess out on her. There are more people insulting her for her parents and sister than even bothering to pretend to care about Isaac.

Tatiana1820 · Feb 22nd 2025

lol if anything it exposed army hypocrites even more, they gave zero f*ck about njs getting their board plans stolen but now they care sooo much about plagiraism issues LOL.

i didn't took that seriously because these issues are often more complexe, in what regard? when apparently this sample was a free use. it's owned by that dude's agency who made it free to sample .

as i already knew, everybody just spoke too soon . that's probably why he deleted his post.

but the way that dude reacted was just very unprofessional and quite demeaning towards livy. feels like he got paid by bango or smth to stir some sh*t.

shoudn't he have contacted livy and her agency first before going on social media and speak like that? even mhj tried to handle her issues with belieft privatly at first, it's hybe who made that sh*t public.

and now eveything's good between both sides so...

anyway, another non issue as i already guessed. and more free promo to darling Livy . stream MEANWHILE chuseyo .

Minazuki · Feb 22nd 2025

Bunnies attacking him are pissing me off, It's only giving people arguments to hate on Danielle and NJZ as a whole (as If what they get daily is not enough)

Just let Olivia solve this on her own, she's a grown woman (and the lyricist/composer of the song)

xx-jenn-xx · Feb 22nd 2025

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lol if anything it exposed army hypocrites even more, they gave zero f*ck about njs getting their board plans stolen but now they care sooo much about plagiraism issues LOL.

i didn't took that seriously because these issues are often more complexe, in what regard? when apparently this sample was a free use. it's owned by that dude's agency who made it free to sample .
as i already knew, everybody just spoke too soon . that's probably why he deleted his post.

but the way that dude reacted was just very unprofessional and quite demeaning towards livy. feels like he got paid by bango or smth to stir some sh*t.

shoudn't he have contacted livy and her agency first before going on social media and speak like that? even mhj tried to handle her issues with belieft privatly at first, it's hybe who made that sh*t public.

and now eveything's good between both sides so...
anyway, another non issue as i already guessed. and more free promo to darling Livy . stream MEANWHILE chuseyo .

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Hey stop. Hes an independent artist with no ties to hybe. stop blaming everything on hybe and army. Yes he vented unprofessionally unlike Olivia he's not backed by a company. Yes they are solving it privately but njz fans came for him to protect olivia which they never should have done because she's not part of njz. His fans are also acting bad but for good reason. This is NOT a hybe issue.

For once stop your nonsense.

Tatiana1820 · Feb 22nd 2025

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Hey stop. Hes an independent artist with no ties to hybe. stop blaming everything on hybe and army. Yes he vented unprofessionally unlike Olivia he's not backed by a company. Yes they are solving it privately but njz fans came for him to protect olivia which they never should have done because she's not part of njz. His fans are also bad. This is NOT a hybe issue.

For once stop your nonsense.

i said it 'feels like', i didn't make a factual claim. so what? bango pays people and bribes anyone he can so he can hurt nzj and their afilliates.

tell me why are 'armys' stalking livy's social networks then? as if many of these hybe accounts waren't just hybe pr people pff. livy and dani's family even got death threats from these psychos!

so YOU stop.

xx-jenn-xx · Feb 22nd 2025

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why are 'armys' stalking livy's social networks then? as if many of these hybe accounts waren't just hybe pr people pff.

Why is bunnies attacking him when they have nothing to do with the situation? Try asking yourself that. THIS IS NOT A HYBE ISSUE.

icyruios · Feb 22nd 2025

Not people blaming the victim and the victim's fanbase

Tatiana1820 · Feb 22nd 2025

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Why is bunnies attacking him when they have nothing to do with the situation? Try asking yourself that. THIS IS NOT A HYBE ISSUE.

i'm not saying attacking him is the solution but livy is dani's sister and their support each other so i can understand them defending her. because the way he behaved wasn't right. it's only when he understood that she wasn't some total nugu that he changed his speech .

and the people who truly have ZERO damn connection to the matter are armies and hybe stans. tell THEM to gtfo will you?

xx-jenn-xx · Feb 22nd 2025

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i'm not saying attacking him is the solution but livy is dani's sister and their support each other so i can understand them defending her. because the way he behaved wasn't right.

it's only when he understood that she wasn't some total nugu that he changed his speech.

and the people who truly have ZERO damn connection to the matter are armies and hybe stans. tell THEM to gtfo will you?

That is not why he changed his tone. He vented out of frustration because he was upset about his work being stolen. He has no company and no one to turn too. He realized his behavior erased his messages publicly apologized and got into contact with her. Thats being an adult.

Your fandom does not need to back olivia. She is not njz she is her own person. Your fandom is causing a lot of problems when they never should be involved.

Tell your fandom to chill if u want others to chill.

Tatiana1820 · Feb 22nd 2025

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That is not why he changed his tone. He vented out of frustration because he was upset about his work being stolen. He has no company and no one to turn too. He realized his behavior erased his messages publicly apologized and got into contact with her. Thats being an adult.

Your fandom does not need to back olivia. She is not njz she is her own person. Your fandom is causing a lot of problems when they never should be involved.

Tell your fandom to chill if u want others to chill.

well apparently his old company or whatever made his work free sample so maybe he should went his frustration to them first no? why attack and demean someone innocent? and publicly? duh.

and his tone did change when he saw livy had some support. anyway any normal people wouldn't be ok with what happened to her. she didn't even write that song.

also my fandom isn't the one sending death threats to innocent people so maybe you should consider your priorities. ok?

xx-jenn-xx · Feb 22nd 2025

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well apparently his old company or whatever made his work free sample so maybe he should went his frustration to them first no? why attack and demean someone innocent? and publicly? duh.

and his tone did change when he saw livy had some support. anyway any normal people wouldn't be ok with what happened to her. she didn't even write that song.

also my fandom isn't the one sending death threats to innocent people so maybe you should consider your priorities. ok?

Enough. You and your fandom need to take a step back and recognize that you’re creating a hostile and unnecessary situation.

1. Isaac Dunbar is an independent artist. He is not associated with HYBE, NJZ, or any major company backing him. Your constant attempt to blame HYBE and ARMY for everything is completely misplaced and irrelevant.

2. He vented out of frustration because his work was stolen. Was his response unprofessional? Yes. But unlike Olivia, he has no company protecting him, no industry backing, and no team to handle legal matters for him. The issue is now being resolved privately, as it should have been from the start.

3. Your fandom has no reason to involve itself. Olivia is not part of NJZ, yet Bunnies have been attacking Isaac on her behalf. She didn’t ask for that, and you don’t speak for her. Instead of escalating unnecessary drama, your fandom should focus on supporting her, not harassing him.

4. The homophobic and racist attacks from your fandom are disgusting. If you truly care about “innocent people,” then start with your own fandom’s behavior. If you expect others to “chill,” then tell your fandom to do the same. Death threats, racial slurs, and homophobic remarks are unacceptable under any circumstances.

This is not a HYBE issue. This is not a fan war. This is about an artist who felt his work was stolen, reacted poorly, realized his mistake, and is now handling it the right way. Your fandom’s involvement has only made things worse. Instead of trying to justify this toxic behavior, take responsibility for it.

Tatiana1820 · Feb 22nd 2025

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Enough. You and your fandom need to take a step back and recognize that you’re creating a hostile and unnecessary situation.

1. Isaac Dunbar is an independent artist. He is not associated with HYBE, NJZ, or any major company backing him. Your constant attempt to blame HYBE and ARMY for everything is completely misplaced and irrelevant.

2. He vented out of frustration because his work was stolen. Was his response unprofessional? Yes. But unlike Olivia, he has no company protecting him, no industry backing, and no team to handle legal matters for him. The issue is now being resolved privately, as it should have been from the start.

3. Your fandom has no reason to involve itself. Olivia is not part of NJZ, yet Bunnies have been attacking Isaac on her behalf. She didn’t ask for that, and you don’t speak for her. Instead of escalating unnecessary drama, your fandom should focus on supporting her, not harassing him.

4. The homophobic and racist attacks from your fandom are disgusting. If you truly care about “innocent people,” then start with your own fandom’s behavior. If you expect others to “chill,” then tell your fandom to do the same. Death threats, racial slurs, and homophobic remarks are unacceptable under any circumstances.

This is not a HYBE issue. This is not a fan war. This is about an artist who felt his work was stolen, reacted poorly, realized his mistake, and is now handling it the right way. Your fandom’s involvement has only made things worse. Instead of trying to justify this toxic behavior, take responsibility for it.

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you're just repeting yourself now. blablabla.

tell that to the hybe pryschos that it's not a hybe issue then!! that's where you start FIRST.

livy was innocent in this affair, defending her is only fair. i'm actually glad she has some support.

also many njz hater disguis themselves are bunnies to dirty their reputation by trash talking other, that's not anything new.

you don't seem to wanna listen to anything i say as if i never said them.

so i better go and talk to a wall .

bye.

xx-jenn-xx · Feb 22nd 2025

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you're just repeting yourself now. blablabla.

tell that to the hybe pryschos that it's not a hybe issue then!! that's where you start FIRST.

livy was innocent in this affair, defending her is only fair. i'm actually glad she has some support.

also many njz hater disguis themselves are bunnies to dirty their reputation by trash talking other.

you don't seem to wanna listen to anything i say as if i never said them.

so i better go and talk to a wall .
bye.

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If you’re going to ignore facts and resort to dismissing everything with “blah blah blah,” then there’s no point in continuing this.

1. I already told you this isn’t a HYBE issue. If you’re so concerned about misinformation, start by correcting your own fandom first instead of deflecting.

2. People pretending to be Bunnies is not an excuse. You can’t blame everything on outsiders when actual members of your fandom have been spreading homophobic and racist hate. Take accountability instead of making excuses.

3. Defending Olivia does not mean harassing Isaac. He already acknowledged his mistake and is handling it privately. There is no justification for the kind of attacks he’s receiving.

Since you’d rather talk to a wall than acknowledge reality, I won’t waste more time explaining it to you. If you actually care about fairness, then start applying that same energy to your own fandom’s actions.

Bye.

Tatiana1820 · Feb 22nd 2025

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If you’re going to ignore facts and resort to dismissing everything with “blah blah blah,” then there’s no point in continuing this.

1. I already told you this isn’t a HYBE issue. If you’re so concerned about misinformation, start by correcting your own fandom first instead of deflecting.

2. People pretending to be Bunnies is not an excuse. You can’t blame everything on outsiders when actual members of your fandom have been spreading homophobic and racist hate. Take accountability instead of making excuses.

3. Defending Olivia does not mean harassing Isaac. He already acknowledged his mistake and is handling it privately. There is no justification for the kind of attacks he’s receiving.

Since you’d rather talk to a wall than acknowledge reality, I won’t waste more time explaining it to you. If you actually care about fairness, then start applying that same energy to your own fandom’s actions.
Bye.

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haricot · Feb 22nd 2025

Hybe stans are as disgusting as NJZ fans concerning this issue, they are flooding everywhere hate comments like "plagiarism runs in her family blood". Must be really hard for Danielle to see her sister receive so much hate because of the never ending war between NJZ fans and some hybe group fans

DaisyTheGenuine · Feb 22nd 2025

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Hybe stans are as disgusting as NJZ fans concerning this issue, they are flooding everywhere hate comments like "plagiarism runs in her family blood". Must be really hard for Danielle to see her sister receive so much hate because of the never ending war between NJZ fans and some hybe group fans

Like these are not his fans lol

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If we can acknowledge NewJeans has nothing to do with this and NewJeans fans shouldn't be in, we can also acknowledge that NewJeans has nothing to do with this and fans of other groups—very obviously not his own— should not be involving themselves and the Hybe situation.

I don't care he's the victim and she's the perpetrator, there's no good reason to bring up her sister, her sister's group, her parents, slut-shaming, pedophilia and sex-trafficking.

If this is about defending small artists, then stick to that

Tatiana1820 · Feb 22nd 2025

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Like these are not his fans lol

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If we can acknowledge NewJeans has nothing to do with this and NewJeans fans shouldn't be in, we can also acknowledge that NewJeans has nothing to do with this and fans of other groups—very obviously not his own— should not be involving themselves and the Hybe situation.

I don't care he's the victim and she's the perpetrator, there's no good reason to bring up her sister, her sister's group, her parents, slut-shaming, pedophilia and sex-trafficking.

If this is about defending small artists, then stick to that

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omg, they're so NASTY .

what is wrong in their head ?

and i'm being lectured about bunnies to not get involved in any way . it's like the people are looking at the finger instead of the damn moon it's pointing at .

CaraFIMIE · Feb 22nd 2025

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my fandom isn't the one sending death threats to innocent people

Yama-Chan · Feb 22nd 2025

*sigh*

Minazuki · Feb 22nd 2025

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Like these are not his fans lol

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If we can acknowledge NewJeans has nothing to do with this and NewJeans fans shouldn't be in, we can also acknowledge that NewJeans has nothing to do with this and fans of other groups—very obviously not his own— should not be involving themselves and the Hybe situation.

I don't care he's the victim and she's the perpetrator, there's no good reason to bring up her sister, her sister's group, her parents, slut-shaming, pedophilia and sex-trafficking.

If this is about defending small artists, then stick to that

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Always obsessing with the girls even when It's NOTHING to do with them

Tatiana1820 · Feb 22nd 2025

guys i'm thinking this could have been a mutually agreed pr move .

the dude is releasing music this week too i think. and livy just debuted. there's no way when you think about it that he didn't knew his song was free to sample .

actually livy's record probably contacted him first to make the song...

now bunnies get to know more about her and would probably be more supportive too .

bro .

haricot · Feb 22nd 2025

Olivia pinned an apalogy comment on the song MV, Isaac Dunbar responded "Everything’s good it’s all love" 12 hours ago and despite that hybe stans are still flooding the comment section with disgusting comments

And no one seem to care care about the poor guy new song that barely got 1K view in 9 hours

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Some NJZ fans are not better tough as they are putting comments on Olivia instagram requesting her to remove her label statement from her X account because NJZ are gettin hate because of her

Tatiana1820 · Feb 22nd 2025

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Olivia pinned an apalogy comment on the song MV, Isaac Dunbar responded "Everything’s good it’s all love" 12 hours ago and despite that hybe stans are still flooding the comment section with disgusting comments
And no one seem to care care about the poor guy new song that barely got 1K view in 9 hours

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Some NJZ fans are not better tough as they are putting comments on Olivia instagram requesting her to remove her label statement from her X account because NJZ are gettin hate because of her

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the last part sounds like crap. why remove a statement that makes both livy and the girls look in a better light? sounds more like some f uped last straw typa nonsense hybe maids would use to still keep on harrassing livy despite things being cleared .

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