KPop Memories - the most Contentious KPop Grand Prize of all time, Golden Disk Album 2018, EXO vs BTS

  • The US Presidential election has been very contentious.


    Out of Trump and Kamala Harris, I fully support Kamala Harris, for the sole reason that she is more friendly to KPop.


    She has met BTS

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    and is less likely to be friendly with the country music dominating the Billboard Hot 100.


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    Now the value of Grand Prizes has significantly declined because of the proliferation of bullshit Grand Prizes, essentially an excuse for shows showing a lot of acts in some foreign city.


    However, in 2017 the value of Grand Prize was still worth something.


    Out of the 3 major Grand Prizes,


    Melon

    Artist - EXO

    Song - BTS, Dynamite

    Album - IU, Palette


    MAMA (IU not eligible because she received a Lifetime Achievement Award from there in 2014)

    Artist - BTS

    Song - Twice, Signal

    Album - EXO, The War


    So, both EXO and BTS had two Grand Prizes and were tied, and the last remaining Grand Prize, Golden Disk, would decide who is the boss.


    Tensions between ExoLs and Armys reached to the top. Both were only eligible for the Album of the Year Grand Prize.


    If EXO won, it would reaffirm its status as the boss of KPop and would beat BTS and continue the SM domination of KPop.


    If BTS won, it would become the new boss of the town, ending the years old SM domination.


    The Song of the Year Grand Prize , on Jan 10, 2018, would be the decisive battle even though EXO would not be there.


    It was a show to behold, featuring Red Velvet, Twice, BlackPink (and GFriend, shuned by all three) , as well as AKMU.


    If any of them won the Grand Prize, the old system of awarding Grand Prizes only to acts from major companies would continue, and EXO would win the next day's Album Grand Prize and things would continue as if nothing would occur.


    However, things got grim when IU, who was cheated of her Grand Prize from Golden Disk in 2011 because SM decided to give Grand Prizes to SNSD and Super Junior (although, as everyone knows, IU did pay back SJ later in 2012).


    The only reason IU , 24 years old at that time (her true age not yet revealed) and a 10 year industry veteran, would show up in there, in an award which shunned her before, would be because she is going to collect a Grand Prize.


    And she did

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    The impact was enormous.


    It meant now Golden Disk was giving Grand Prizes to acts not from the 3 major companies,


    which meant BTS would win the Grand Prize the day after.


    And it did.

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    However it was all but decided when IU, the #1 personal non grata in Grand Prizes, won her first real Grand Prize (MMA was not considered seriously until 2017) , ending 10 years of SM domination although it might be partially restored on 2024 with aespa.


    It was the day IU's lifelong struggle against SM reached its final conclusion, and also probably the last time a nonKPop song , Through the Night, would win a major Grand Prize in a Kpop award as well.

  • IU totally deserved 2017.


    Many would have written her off in 2015-16 period. Chatshire was controversial.

    Many major 2nd gen groups had winded down Bigbang, SNSD, SISTAR etc.,


    And 3rd gen was dominating hard - lot of GGs hitting peaks, BOL4 was killing and BTS had started their meteoric rise.


    Yet IU utterly dominated 2017. 4 songs & 1 feature PAKed, she had most presence/points on the digital charts. Yes statistically she has a greater year in 2020-21.. but 2017 the competition was far more fierce and she was coming from behind. She crushed it.


    MAMA is export oriented like you, it loathes to award domesticists and panders to i-fans.

    Others MMA/GDA/KMA don't have that much bias.


    But is 2017 really the most contentious?




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  • at that time it was extremely tense, between EXOLs and Army.


    Both sides were about to go to real war


    However, with IU winning the Grand Prize, the bomb was defused


    Even the most diehard SM fans had a small soft spot on IU, because she had been cheated her Grand Prizes quite often, for 7 long years. Elfs never forgave her for her most famous photo, but other SM stans did have a weak spot on her.


    Since IU winning the Grand Prize meant the next day's GP would go to BTS, otherwise there would have been no reason for IU to appear to begin with, so the next day was anticlimactic.


    Now, MMA is the only major KPop award still held in Korea, everything else becoming export oriented. How long MMA will keep on staying in Korea remains to be seen.

  • Anyway,. look to the future, where there will be "Palette Music Awards",


    When merely getting on Palette is considered swag by Kpop groups and fans, then the obvious next step is for IU to start her own awards ceremony.


    Do idols want to be recognized by the faceless media machines like MAMA, MMA, GDA or by the Senior Singer, the Strange Creature of Kpop?

  • Kamala Harris, for the sole reason that she is more friendly to KPop.

    She has met BTS


    True, I even think Kamala m gave some lyrics or lyrical inspiration to Agust D and that resulted in this word salad in People Pt.2,


    So time is yet now, right here to go

    I know, you know, anything does know

    So time is yet now, right here to go

    Nobody doesn't know anymore



    That's totally Kamala style. Suga should have credited her.


    And that they got IU famous for her profound lyrics to sing "whatever" this is, is even nicer a touch.

  • Anyway,. look to the future, where there will be "Palette Music Awards",


    When merely getting on Palette is considered swag by Kpop groups and fans, then the obvious next step is for IU to start her own awards ceremony.


    Do idols want to be recognized by the faceless media machines like MAMA, MMA, GDA or by the Senior Singer, the Strange Creature of Kpop?

    It seems after NewJeans she only invites non-idols to Palette, so none of them will hold sway outside of Korea


    Inside Korea just being invited to Palette seems to be worth something, and since she only invites a few acts per year (and sometimes non singers like Jo Jungsuk), an award will be superfluous

  • Armies being so critical of BTS involved in politics really cost it a lot of opportunities

  • Armies being so critical of BTS involved in politics really cost it a lot of opportunities

    Artists getting into politics is mostly bad business.


    But the problem is that fandoms are too powerful, that they often are ahead of artists/agencies and are setting the agenda. And very few acts have the spine to prevent that.

    Was BTS even willing on BLM or were they co-opted by Woke fans?


    Still it was a good partnership, helped BTS to succeed in the West, at least in 2020.

    Guess "Free Palestine" was too risky.


    Look at all the Western Pop singers endorsing Kamala Harris, they are not going to have a nice morning today.

    People may buy accessories and brands based on them, but to take them seriously on politics, celebrities who largely live in very padded bubbles.. come on.

  • It seems after NewJeans she only invites non-idols to Palette, so none of them will hold sway outside of Korea


    Inside Korea just being invited to Palette seems to be worth something, and since she only invites a few acts per year (and sometimes non singers like Jo Jungsuk), an award will be superfluous

    Good, now that you have said it, then the precedents are that IU disproves you.

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